followed we will not fall in line with those who want to make us then or there is no way to force our mesereau taught you and then running away like there's any reason i could prove it by. all right kelly you know you will never finish your sentence if i don't jump in i think you will this time howie go ahead finish your point. i'll give it my best there was a slight decline in smoking attributable to people's knowledge about the health consequences but the economists have made it very clear that high to that high taxes on tobacco were the single greatest public health intervention that was done to curb in sperm and smoking rates in the united states ok people if i go to you i mean one argued one argument that's being made all the time is that it's rather crude and you know thin people are paying for the health costs for people that are overweight and it's thin people that are not making opie pl overweight obese obviously. you know we have to start a little bit at a more fundamental point in this discussion because it seems to be that your guest from yeah go insists that we should be top down