ink: that was loretto mester jackson hole today. to ask jim about this inflation picture.ms like the most worrisome part of what the fed has to deal with. they haveof act like it under control and maybe need to cap it, but it seems to me they cannot get inflation going to matter how hard they try. we have never seen it really pick up. >> i call this make jack or economics. yet the song, "you can't always get what you want." this is what happened in the 1930's. thought he could fix that with qe. i spoke recently and he admitted it was an experiment, his words not mine, but it looks like i failed one. qe does not get you inflation. you need -- mark: let me ask you a question about a half an hour ago, his question was, what is the value of the 2% efficient target? what is the value? >> is steals money from savers and gives it to bankers. 2% sounds tame. the dollar value of in half. another 35 years, it is half again. oft is a 75% of violation the dollar. it steals from savers, retirees, anyone with a fixed income, and enriches bankers who are basically debtors. it is transfer