the phone call carries meta data of who you call and when. says they have a right to this information. >> we got a lot of people to volunteer the meta data to us and we were able to analyze it. >> the goal? to find out what spy agencies can learn from meta data when they have a whole lot of it. >> you wouldn't expect the call logs to tell who you are dating. >> they wrote a program that does just that, they can tell who you bank with. >> say you're calling planned parenthood or a heart specialist. >> but it goes beyond data, they are looking into information you store on line, your pictures, files, e-mail, private conversations. >> the government can get your information from a cloud service and that is not going to violate your constitutional rights? >> and what do you believe? >> i believe it is wrong. >> and this group rer rerestoring your fourth amendment. >> snowden revealed our government is undermining our livelihoods and our core sort of professional interests. the ability to trust american technology will be lost. >> but the technolo

also inherent in making these changes to the meta data collection, is an admission that we didn't reallyd on to these records to begin with, as reason magazine says, the program was essential until it became dispensable. >> yeah, and this is sort of the point that senator ron wyden, a critic of the bulk collection program, was making today. which is that for years, we've been told or i guess for months since the revelation, that these were absolutely critical to combatting terrorism. that you needed to three hops. that you couldn't wait for a fisa approval of the request, that any time like that would be the difference of an explosion happening or not. and now, we get today that in fact, intelligence community can apparently live with having to go to the fisa court to get a request granted. with not housing the data itself, with allowing the phone companies to house it and allowing the phone companies to get rid of it after 18 months, so there is a bit of egg on the face here, or at least a little exposure from past statements made by the intelligence committee. >> to follow on sam's poi

shouldn't there -- i could give you a stack of meta-data and you would not know what was in that. but yet what google and am amazon and all of the others are collecting is far more damaging at the end of the day. >> i actually don't think it is more damaging. google and amazon can't send out drones to kill you. >> or can they? >> that's later. >> you you can buy a diligence drone on amazon. >> i am feeling very vulnerable right now, just like our country. >> i feel within 10 to 15 years we will have to pick a side between google and amazon. >> it will be like "the hopinger games." the "hunger games." >> there is a difference between what is done between commerce and what the government is doing. there is no reason to believe the nsa is gaining a lot by sur veiling every aspect of every part of every american. >> let me ask you this. >> that is not what they are supposed to be doing. the nsa -- they are only supposed to be looking at stuff that is overseas or the overseas agents. >> we don't have the time to dive into this. >> we have an hour. >> we have to get to that idaho beer s

for the words cleanpowersf in that document and he found that it was actually embedded in there in meta data. you could cut and paste the section where it was in and put it in the word document and it revealed that cleanpowersf was part of the climate protection plan and it was within the plan, a goal -- actually two goals one residential and one for commercial. the residential goal was to have 100% renewable energy on a residential side by 2030 and it was 80% for the commercial side. that information was redacted from the climate protection plan, i assume, while it was being, you know, [speaker not understood] before it what released. the data plan [speaker not understood] we didn't get it issued until 2014. and last i heard, 2014, its was not 2013. okay, any other member of the public who would like to comment? seeing none, we will close public comment. [gavel] >> and do we have any other items before us? >> actually, chair avalos, can i just make a comment -- >> commissioner mar. >> what mr. holtz man said about the role of 350 bay area. i'm one of the members of the bay area air quality

>> guest: i can there meta data and the phone records were valuable. i don't think this would have happened with the disclosures. but he disclosed so much more that had nothing to do with america and the american constitution that i think it is hugely damaging. >> host: do you think it is damaging because the technology can't move up fast? you said the countries will continue to work was. >> guest: it will have a chilling affect for a while. there is going to be more reluctance to share what they have and what happens if there is a shard of information ability a terrorisaattack and for whatever reason because of snowden that isn't passed on. >> host: do you think we are at a time where the government and cia needs to assume things will get out so secrets are not remaining secrets especially in this environment where we depend on the computer to keep secrets. links are inevitable. there were leaks 35 years ago and they will be 35 years from now. they are a fact of life in the community as we know. so we have to live with that. the police are bigger and

former nsa contractor edward snowden dealing with the international collection of storage, called the meta data of phone records, president obama props that data be stored by the big telephone companies. they would keep the data for 18 months and if an intelligence agency like the ns awants it, a special court order would be needed to get it. mr.snowden by the way continues to live in exile in russia. in the u.s. he is charged with espionage, interesting, there is one form of u.s. president that gave snowden some praise. >> i think what snowden has done has been constructive in the long run, since 9/11 we have gone too far in intrusion on the privacy that americans ought to enjoy as a right of citizenship. >> e-mails and phone calls are not president carter's messaging tools. >> i have felt that my own communications were probably monitored aen when i want to commune tate with a foreign leader privately, i type or writes the letter myself and put it in the post office and mail it. >> he says he does it by mail. this is his latest book. jimmy carter, a call to action, women, religion and politic

has been -- there's been a debate back and forth on this idea of who was going to house the bulk meta data and the president, as he explained in the press conference for the first time publicly, said it can be done with the phone companies. at the same time, you have members of congress, including mike rogers, in the midst of developing legislation. it's all sort of coming to a head this week, so that's sort of the impetus of why this story bubbled up now, tamron. i think the president gave his road map here. he made it seem as if now all that has to happen is congress has to pass it. this is going to be a much more difficult path, a much more difficult path, than was laid out just now by the president. >> absolutely. and, obviously, the audience, which the team noted in first read, the president making these first public comments before a european audience. we know the dicey territory since the snowden revelations were made that the president has faced on these trips abroad, chuck. >> that's right, and, in fact, the last question at the presser was about nsa, and it came from a dutch jour

paul wasted no time talking about meta data collection and the controversy surrounding claums that the cia has been spying on senate intelligence committee members. >> but your government is interested in what you're reading. they are interested in what you say on your phone calls. they are interested on what you write in your e-mails, or even if they say they are not interested they say the fourth amendment doesn't protect any of these records. the nsa is collecting the records of every american. >> lots of people on campus wondering today why an admittedly conservative senator would pick such a liberal location but a political science professor says he's popular with younger people and wants to raise his profile before the presidential run in 2016. >> jesse jackson in the silicon valley today. what inspired the civil rights activist to stage a protest here in the bay area. >> 12 days after it disappeared, still no sign of that missing malaysia airliner. i'm scott budment. coming up, something new that's caught the attention of investigators. >> also, another unstant millionaire. the

campus in california, attacking the president for his continued support of the nsa and its phone meta datathat as the first african-american president, president obama should know better, given the history of surveillance on civil rights leaders. >>> quickly recapping what we have learned today in the mystery of flight 370, a federal official tells cnn, new clues suggest the dramatic route change that sent the plane heading west may have been programmed into the plane's computer to be executed automatically. >>> also, maine officials say they have received new radar data from another country but they won't reveal who provided the data or what they show. >>> and the fbi is now looking at the flight simulator seized from the pilot's home. experts are trying to recover some deleted files that potentially, folksily could contain some critical clues. >>> remember you can always follow us on twitter. you can tweet me at wolf blitzer. you can certainly tweet the show at cnn sit room. thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in washington. erin burnett "out front "starts right now. >>> next

the collection of bulk telephone meta data has potential for rebuke. they will ask for another 90-day window to keep data the way it has been before changes begin. >> the search for osama bin laden's son-in-law will be in the hands of the jury. he was insfrument tal from recru recruiting people. jurors will have to weigh in on these charges including conspireing to kill americans. he faces life in prison if convicted. >>> the judge in the oscar pistorius murder trial hearing more this morning from the person who might have the most damaging testimony of all, the victim herself. this is a look at the courtroom police reading several of reba steenkamp explosive text messages including this one weeks before she was killed. >> he is accused of killing steenkamp last valentine's day. >> now put on hold today because of the 13 foot as wells and 50 mile per hour winds in the indian ocean. now china which had more than 156 people on board de p manning malaysia share all of their evidence. doug luzader live with more. >> the weather there is terrible. they hope

the group that google was a part of took the position that this meta-data collection was not necessarythat there were other ways of achieving their goals. the issue of collecting data was problematic because of leaking. as best i can tell, they announced a committee which i am on, to try to figure out what to do. the president does not want the nsa to keep the data, but he wants others to keep it. i will take the president's word as sincere that he was trying to address this in the balance between interests. in the book, we say quite a bit about this area in particular, in a democracy, democracies will have this debate, especially since we notice going on, and we will find the right balance of interest. if i wander around in america and i asked the question, what rights or privacy with an american give up if there were a horrific 10 person terroristic act once a year or every few years? it was horrific. the average american says to me, i am fine with it. ask the same question in germany, the answer is, we are not fine with it. ask the same question in britain, they say why are you aski

. >> host: with the meta data collecting. >> guest: that wasn't a surprise nor was the electronic investigation overseoverseas. but the massive amount of

. >> the president ordered to a transition to end 215 meta data collection program as it exist to quote prosever the capabilities that we need close quote but without the government collecting and holding the data on call detail records. what in your view are there essential capabilities that need to be preserved in transitions the program? >> sir, there is an ongoing process to work through that. i am not part of it. but one thought would be the idea of speed. the ability to query to data to work the new mechanisms we will put in place in a time playmall. >> do you agree the government doesn't need to hold the meta data to determine this information? in other words, it is the possible a third party could be assigned to hold the data and then have the service providers keep the data on the other hand? >> i believe with the right on construct we can make that work. >> would it be limited to the service providers or would you want a third party? >> i think they are all under consideration and either scenario could work; whether a service provider or a third party there is challenges but i

is now saying the nsa will get out of the business of collecting bulk phone meta data at national securityy instead leading proposal is to have phone companies hold on to the data for the nsa to look at when they need to. the president is expected to unveilt that proposal within the next couple of days. >>> our breaking news. the hunt resumes for flight 370. can searchers make up for time lost due to violent weather? and passengers' relatives demanding firm evidence that their loved ones are gone. a family member will tell us why they are so upset. the cat th. [ meows ] ...and let in the dog that woke the man who drove to the control room [ woman ] driverless mode engaged. find parking space. [ woman ] parking space found. [ male announcer ] ...that secured the data that directed the turbines that powered the farm that made the milk that went to the store that reminded the man to buy the milk that was poured by the girl who loved the cat. [ meows ] the internet of everything is changing everything. cisco. tomorrow starts here. but with less energy, moodiness, iand a low sex drive,g. i had

senator, you going to be happy if they let the phone companies keep the meta data?ng the president to the table. some of it depends on what actually happens. the interesting thing is he unilaterally instituted this program without congressional authority. now he's saying he has to wait for congressional authority to undo it. he could stop it if he were serious. but i don't like the idea of collecting the data. if it's left in the phone company's hands and you have to have a warrant with an individual's name on it, then that i think meets the law, the constitution. but we'll have to see what happens. the president sometimes says one thing and does another. so the devil is in the details here. >> have you talked to the c.i.a.? do they feel they need this program? >> well, the interesting thing is i'm not sure whether to believe them or not. we have the c.i.a. now illegally searching congressional computers, giving access and then removing access and i really think that there needs to be an overall investigation of the intelligence community. i favor a select committee

the administration is trying to end the government's role in the collection of the phone records, meta data, while maintaining the tools to stop terrorists. >> i am confident it is allowing us to do what is necessary in order to deal with the dangerous and the terrorism attacks and doing it in a way that addresses the concerns that people have raised and working with congress to pass the legislation quickly to get on the business of e effective law enforcement. >> the goal is ending the collection of the data records. the phone companies are told to store the data for 18 months. that is two phone calls back. the nss could obtain specific records but only with permission from a judge. civil lib terties groups are welcoming the plan and worried it is only covering the phone records. >> this is an important first step and deciding that the collection of american's phone records will stop, and going back to actually making court records for the specific accounts, this is a step in the right direction, but the problem, this is just the tip of the iceberg, there are financial records and internet

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as i hear your reasons for resigning from the fisa court the main objection was the meta-data collection program was not being brought to the attention of the court in the first place. since you left the court has been reviewed by the court and the fisa court upheld its constitutconstitut ionality but now the federal district courts are divided on the question. judge leon in washington is denounced the program as of trouble will violation of the force amendment and said james madison would have been aghast at the slow incursion of liberty. the judge in new york has reached the opposite conclusion saying it is consistent with the fourth amendment because we have no -- judge justice scalia says he thinks the court will hear his case. if you don't feel like opining on that issue imagine the court did strike down the meta-data collectiocollectio n program. what additional reforms do you think would be necessary to make the fisa court consistent with the court? >> well, you are raising a really big question because there are a lot of people who think the fisa court, that we shouldn't have a f

new, as we discussed this morning, he's got a new proposal coming to the hill to try to change how meta databeen spying on either ordinary people of heads of foreign governments. they were collecting data. and he said he was confident that the new proposal they come up with will strike the right balance. >> overall i'm confident that it allows us to do what is necessary in order to deal with the dangers of the terrorist attack but does so in a way that addresses some of the concerns that people have raised. >> and, carl, the president said he was hope that congress would act swiftly to implement in change which would have some of that metadata being held by phone companies rather than the government. >> john harwood with that. >>> when we come back, walt mossberg is here with his latest review and this is one you're not going to want to miss. and you don't have to wait much longer. walt is coming up next.p ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [ tires screech ] chewley's finds itself in a sticky situation today after recalling its new gum. [ male announcer ] stick it to the market before you get stuck. get the most exten

. >> wooduff: phone companies hold the so-called meta-data on calls, for 18 months. we'll explore the president's proposal right after the news summary. rain and flash flood warnings have slowed the search effort in the washington state mudslide. the toll in saturday's disaster now stands at 14, but officials warned today it's likely to keep rising. they also said many of the 176 people listed as missing may actually be alive and well. rough weather at sea forced a day-long delay in the search for that missing malaysian airliner. that came as authorities narrowed the search area in the indian ocean, to a region the size of alaska. they've declared that the plane crashed there, killing all 239 on board. but relatives of the chinese victims angrily rejected that finding today. lucy watson of independent television news reports from beijing. >> reporter: it was a provocative start. as grieving families tired of waiting turned their anguish into action. [screaming] and their banners told a story, mum, it's springtime now, come back it reads. another s, i bought you a dia

summer, in one of his first comments on the meta-data collection revealed by the snowden tapes, president obama said he believes that fisa court would benefit from the addition of a civil liberties advocate. he was somewhat vague at the time, but i took it as confirmation that he agreed that there should be a special advocate or an adversarial process, more robust than what we have now. but the form of advocate he has endorsed i think can be improved. i thank him for his very thoughtful attention to this issue, but i think that the advocate can be made more givetive if we in effect it a certain form. as i see it, the special advocate must, for example, be able proactively to request for dissipation in fisa court proceedings, and to engage the fisa court of review appellate process for significant legal decisions. that would be a real reform. to thet a cosmetic tweak current process. getting the car to the advocate herself, rather than leaving it entirely in the hands of the court to invite an advocate on occasion when the court thinks it is important, is very important. we have heard from

the president says he has decided that the best path forward as to how nsa collects meta data is the nt should not collector hold this data in bulk. instead, the data should remain at the telephone companies for the length of time it currently does today. we will have more on this developing story coming up. >>> well, we want to turn now to ukraine where russia is reportedly ramping up its troop presence on the border, increasing levels from 20,000 last week to over 30,000 today. now, this comes as president obama works to shore up international alliances to confront russia's aggression before things get worse. >> russia's leadership is challenging truths that only a few weeks ago seemed self-evident. that in the 21st century, the borders of europe cannot be redrawn with force. that international law matters. that people in nations can make their own decisions about their future. >> on the international front, the imf says it will loan up to $18 billion to the new government in kiev, and the united nations is preparing for a critical vote later today. nbc's amon has more on that from

and that is why you saw the leak saying the president wants to move the meta data over to the phone companiestting the nsa have them. >> thanks, ed. we will talk about that coming up. >> the contraceptive getting it's mandate in the court today. hobby lobby making the case to defend what they call their own religious rights. and there is this -- >> i think in one of his e-mails he said every day is a gift. that is how he lived >> the family of phillip wood, one of the missing passengers on flight mh370, still holding out hope he is going to be found. >> and a child saved after being swallowed by this mudslide. the latest on the search for those still missing. >> he is stuck and his pants came off. the mud compacted him around and created a suction and he could not move. the way we see it, after a heavy snowfall, you have two options... you can stay inside. or get behind the wheel of the jeep grand cherokee with an available best-in-class 4x4 traction management system to maximize control, giving you confidence in all weather conditions. this is the 2014 jeep grand cherokee. it is the best of

we're going to have a little less depth with the meta data n.s.a. is going to be able to query. it is only a year and a half or so. but in return for that we're going to get a lot moreç breadth. under the other system n.s.a. was getting a third or less of the meta data on phone calls here in the united states and from the united states and abroad. with this system it's almost exhaustive, almost total that n.s.a. will be able to query this time through the phone companies the complete data base. on balance, this is probably a little bit better than an 80% solution. >> you're relatively pleased considering how bad it could have been? >> right. >> if people are watching right now -- and we hope they are -- and they're saying do they still have access to my phone conversations? do they still have access to my phone logs? what's your answer? >> here's the way it used to work. as you know, n.s.a. would get the data and lock it down and not access it except in very, very limited circumstances. now n.s.a. is going to leave the data with the phone?x(áuhnies but they still get to query t

according to edward snowden, unrebutted by the nsa, but they have the content, not just the meta dit meta dataing from the colleagues at the "washington post" that the same procedure is being done to another country. they have not named the country. it is billions of conversations and it is only for 30 days, not five years, but it is odd the nsa would be doing this and boasting about it. we don't know if this is frieor. if is friend, it might become foe or there might be political upheaval if the government consented without telling their people. >> it could be americans calling in as well? >> yes. it is my view and the view of obama's privacy panels that what this administration is doing is unconstitutional. the forth amendment protects phone conversations. it doesn't interfere with spying on foreigns in foreign countries. the only laws implemented there would be from the country itself. >> what if this is in the name of national security? i know you are calling snowden an american hero, but this could hurt our security. >> when we find out what country it is, it will probably damage the rela

last summer in one of his first comments on the meta-data collection revealed by the stone stone -- dolan tapes president obama believes the fisa court would in effect from the addition of a civil liberties advocate. he was somewhat vague at the time but i took it as confirmation that he agreed that there should be a special advocate or an adversarial process more robust than what we have now. the form of advocate he has endorsed a thing can be improved and i thank him for his very thoughtful attention to this issue but i think that the advocate can be made more effective if we in effect give it a certain forum. as i see it the special advocate must for example be able to proactively request participation in fisa court proceedings and to engage the fisa court of review appellate process for significant legal decisions. that would be a real reform, not just a cosmetic tweak to the current process. giving his power to the advocate herself rather than leaving it entirely in the hands of the court to invite an advocate on occasion when the court thinks it's important is very important. we hav

the president order a transition to and telephone meta-data collection for you as it currently existsand to preserve the capabilities that we need, but without the government collecting and holding the data on call detail records. do you believe that the government needs to hold all the meta-data records in order to determine whether terror suspects overseas are communicating with persons located in the united states or could a third rd, a private third party hold that data for a service provider or perhaps keep the data? speedway chairman, i think barry three options on that you put on put on the table. he mentioned government holding in the internet service providers holding. there is yet another option where you look at what day you need and look at only that data. generally, a facility that just gets those predicated the terrorist communication. you have those three options on the table. those are the ones that need to be fully discussed from both sides. they have pros and cons on the agility you would have with the programs. we have made recommendations that will be argued out ov

we already saw the independent review board come out against the collection of meta data on phone recordsives there might be to preserve security while strength thenning the economy and internet in particular. >> aneesh, to jon's point though that sounds like a lot of policy talk where we know the real protagonist in this should be edward snowden revealing to the average american and to a lot of tech companies just the extent to which this stuff is going on. so from that point of view, he continues to drive the conversation because people feel like he's giving them more reliable information than they can get otherwise. >> i would have said, you know, he had plenty of options to present his feedback through more traditional and formal channels, to provide that kind of input to members of conversation, to the privacy and civil liberties oversight board and to the nsa itself and to the record thus far there's been no evidence he pursued the appropriate channels to bring his concerns to the attention. look, it is certainly an important conversation to be had regardless about how we protect ou

i believe nsa has a lot of the meta data they are going through. now we are getting a lot out of rolls royce and the manufacturer. and really we are not getting enough out of malaysian airlines or out of the malaysian government. >> so general, i want to ask you about another story, the president's proposed cuts to the military budget. one veterans group estimate this is means for the average career enlisted guy a cut of $5,000 per year. and, at the same time, the president is demanding this belt-tightening from the military and is flying around the country spending tens of millions of tax dollars to operate air force one in order to raise money for the democratic party. do you see hypocrisy there? >> yes, i do. and the fact is is that obamacare because of the out-of-control costs are not only wrecking the best health care system in the world, but it's also a threat to our national security. because we are unilaterally disarming. we have undoubtedly taken that step and we've taken almost a trillion dollars out of the defense budget in the last five

meta-analysis. we hold a bunch of other studies and asked a question of that data.k it does give us pause and we ought to think about designing a trial that actually answers this question specifically. i think there is something to this. gerri: should women take more vitamin d if they are cancer survivors? >> i think they should. if the tumor is trying to grow again, if this is true we can down regulate tumor growth, it can be very important and there is no downside to vitamin d implementation. gerri: good to see you. >> thank you for having me. gerri: and we will be right back with my two cents more an answer to the question of the day. if your cell phone bill out of control? stay with us. [ telephone rings ] [ shirley ] edward jones. [ male annncer ] with nearly 7 million investors... oh hey, neill, how are you? [ male announcer ...you'd expect us to have a highly skilled call center. kevin, neill holley's on line one. ok, great. [ male announcer ] and we do. it's how edward jones makes sense of investing. unused data, minutes and texts. a websites to help. save l

extensive collections of scientific data have been the source of documents for meta analysts saying in effect that the big changes are underway, disrupting a mostly climate climate climateproblems of thousands of years. perhaps more worrisome is the likelihood of severe weather events such as floods. quoting -- "even if you had the same amount of rain, it's going to be delivered in these more punctuated very intense rain events which are more likely to wash out bridges roads cause damage to people's basements flooding things like that that cost more, said brenda uresaw, senior climate scientist with the union of concerned scientist, an organization started in massachusetts institute of technology in 1969 and now is an alliance of more than 400,000 citizens and scientists. we haven't designed our infrastructure especially the aging i infrastructure of the northeast, to handle these kinds of drainage needs, she said." in 2007 the northeast climate impacts assessment was conducted by scientists at more than a dozen universities including harvard and princeton, in addition to experts at th