i mean, with metallica, i learn so much, and i kind of - harmonies, that i never played in classical music. but also, i found out, the things they are doing, sometimes it's similar to some of the contemporary music we are doing. like, let's say bartok, for example, you know? he's quite rock n' roll, with his concerto no. 2, concerto no. 1. >> bartok is rock n' roll? >> absolutely. >> i remember reading that you were describing what you see. when you hear music, you're seeing in your mind what you're playing. how do you do that? >> for music, everybody has their own kind of tricks, you know, how to get into your heart. whether it's through - kind of the imagination of the pictures, of - or you're reading the scores. and for me it always works with the - the - the emotion, emotion approaches. approaching through - pictures. and movie motion pictures. i see landscapes, i see the themes from the movies. and i see, i just see a lot of things. and colors, and this - somehow it's - even though i'm actually looking into somewhere. but, actually, my vision are not there. >> i am struck by you