so let me talk about my hometown of detroit where about 95% of white children in the metro detroit area live in very low poverty neighborhoods. these are neighborhoods with, for the most part, highly functioning schools, good jobs for their parents, places to buy, fresh fruits and vegetables, capital to start a business. in contrast, only about 40% of black and latino kids in metro detroit live in those kinds of neighborhoods. now, you might say, well, that's to be expected given differences in wealth, income and education. but let's control for that. in detroit poor white children, about three out of every four live in neighborhoods with very low levels of poverty. in contrast, there are similarly poor -- their similarly poor black and latino peers very overrepresented in high poverty neighborhoods. so these are the issues that are at the root of our conversation. so i invite our panelists, how do we tackle these challenges? how do we begin to understand the sorting that has happened as a result of a variety of historic and contemporary factors and tackle those challenges so that, ulti