and more detail i'm now joined live with by xander as a result of senior oil and gas analyst at metro paul c. i sent a thanks for coming to the program friday now this deal russian men as well have agreed that russian british joined me to take the people by b.p.'s assets what significance does this have for russia and if you remember back to two thousand and nine story of a conflict between shareholders of thinking b.p. i mean b.p. and russian shareholders one of the major points about the consequences that b.p. objected against to be buying some upstream is a broad brush and so now probably you can call these do you as a first significant upstream acquisitional to the outside russian so it probably this is the kind of political decision these first. came from venezuela so it's more political than economic i think well you can't assess fully the economical significance of that is so i'm project now to take a v.p. it's too early to discuss that ok so but we also know that rosneft acquisition of refineries in germany it's a is it an economic move from your point of view or is it a strategic one w