metzl. guest: this country is great because of its complexity and diversity, and in the book i use a lot of research to show that actually societies where the most number of people have the best opportunities to improve their lot in life end up being the healthiest societies, societies where there is not just multiple people at every income level who can rise up, the promise of that, but also society is where there are multiple histories, multiple points of view in conversations. and so i think i understand the caller in saying that diversity is an important thing but if not that's the point i make in the book. in a way there is a fantasy that we can build a bunch of walls, walls everywhere seemingly now, and change the ways that diversity happens and certainly immigration policy is not something i talk about a great deal in the book, but this idea that basically we can preserve something in this country and really what i think we should be preserving in this country is the idea that we have

metzl.is country is great because of its complexity and diversity, and in the book i use a lot of research to show that actually societies where the most number of people have the best opportunities to improve their lot in life end up being the healthiest societies, societies where there is not just multiple people at every income level who can rise up, the promise of that, but also society is where there are multiple histories, multiple points of view in conversations. and so i think i understand the caller in saying that diversity is an important thing but if not that's the point i make in the book. in a way there is a fantasy that we can build a bunch of walls, walls everywhere seemingly now, and change the ways that diversity happens and certainly immigration policy is not something i talk about a great deal in the book, but this idea that basically we can preserve something in this country and really what i think we should be preserving in this country is the idea that we have really ma

professor jonathan metzl set it boils down to politician and he says race.whiteness" how the politics of racial resentment is killing america's heartland. i thank you so much, jonathan, for being with us. i want to read something that you wrote. you wrote that you convened a group of working class americans. you wrote, when they voiced critiques of opinions that differ from gop dogma, their concerns were quickly dismissed by other members of the group, these instances highlight guns and tax cuts not just as policies but as white racial identities. being pro gun or anti-health care reform at any cost mark people as being one of us, and questioning these positions made you one of them. so is it just the president and gop? or is tribalism a human condition? >> well, that really gets at the core of what i studied in the book. i did it in multiple focus groups across the south for several years, looking at core gop, kind of trump-style policies looking at health care, guns and education. what i found was a dramatic range, honestly what it meant to be white in ame

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metzle talks about dying of whiteness. it looks at racial resentment and public health.e sure to watch "washington journal." join the discussion. >> you went up these stairs into his rather modest cottage. but he had torn out the walls at the end so that it was all one big picture. so he sat in the center of this big black leather chair. if you looked out to the left was the robert moses bridge, the causeway to fire island. if you looked ott the right-hand side, it was the tower of robert moses state park. so there's robert moses framed by it. i want to tell you, intimidating. i'll never forget. he had this wonderful charming smile, tough, old guy. still mighty. still at the height of his power. i believe he was 78 but still at the height of his power. and he said, so you're the young fellow who thinks he's going write a book about me. >> robert caro, sunday night at 8:00 eastern on c-span's q&a. >> the only thing we have to fear is fear itself. >> ask not what your country can do for you. ask what you can do for your country. >> and the people who knocked these building

jordan metzl.lus, she's opening up about something very personal to her. >>> first, dylan, double duty, how about a check of the weather? >> gentlemen. it's chilly, rainy, not a nice spring day for sure. we are going to continue with some of that cooler weather for the weekend. on saturday, we are looking at some very strong winds, especially across new england, where they can gust up to 40 to 45 miles per hour. temperatures will be a little below average. the sun will return. rain moves into the central plains, although it doesn't look like we'll see a lot of rain. just more or less showers, some isolated thunderstorms. mountain snow on sunday through the rockies. those showers and storms will slowly move east, keeping temperatures on the cooler side. it is nice and mild along the east coast. should be close to 60 in new york city, getting to the upper 60s and lower 70s across the soheutt.as that's a look at the weather >>> good morning. i'm meteorologist kari hall. live look outside in oakland, a