and also by mfi foundation, improving the quaaity of life within our community. and also by the alice kleberg reynolds foundation and viewers like you. thank you. >> smith: i'm evan smith. -úhe's an iconic rock-n-roll singer whose bat out of hell record released 35 years ago is one offthe best selling albums of all time with more than 43 million copies sold wooldwide. he's also an actor whose credits include thh rocky3 horror picture show, roadie his new album, hell in a hand basket, has just been released. he's meat loaf. thissis overheard. >> smith: meat loaf, welcome. >> meat loaf: welcome! >> smith: welcome to you. >> meat loaf: no. oh, that's right. you're welcome. >> smith: well, thank you for bbing here. whatever it ends up beiig. [ laughter ] >> meat loaf: yeah. welcome. you're welcome. i'm glad to be here.3 >> smith: hello. [laughs] it's good, it's good to have you. i have to tell you that when i was re-readiig up to remind myself about all the -- many interesting things about your career, i don't know what surprised me more to the point that i just made

and also by mfi foundation, improving the quality of life within our community. and also by the alicee3 kleburg reynolds foundation and viewers like you. thank you. >> i'm evan smith, he's the feisty host of a daily msnbc talk show whose first book greedy bastards rails against government -- it hhs him exploring the root causes of unemployment from one end of the country to the other. he is dylan ratigan, this is overheard. >> ♪ >> smith: dylan ratigan, >> ratigan: it's a pleasure to be here. ú&anks so mucc for having me out. >> smith: nice to have you. i want to ask please the next ttme you wwite a book i would prefer a title with a point of view. >> ratigan: you know, we. [laughter] >> smith: no, no point of view at all visible in this title. >> ratigan: well, with this one we didn't wwnt to let people on to our point of view early. we. >> smith: make them wait. >> ratigan: . . .we wanted to sort of encourage them to read it to figure out what we were trying to go for. >> smith: right. you, you -- you, you would not be wrong to say that the genesis of this book

and also by mfi foundation, improving the quality of life within our community. and also by the aaice kleberg reynolds foundation and viewers like you. thank you. >> smith: i'm evan smith. he's the world's most celebrated practitioner of mind, body medicine. a champion of physical, mental, emotional,,spirittal and social wellness. he is the author of more útan 60 books, one for each year he's been on this earth, including 19 "new york times" best sellers. his latest published last fall is wwr of the world views, sciince versus spiritualty. he's deepak chopra. this is overheard. >> smmth: dr. chopra, wellome. >> chopra: thank you. >> smith: very nice to have you here, sir. >> chopra: it's nice to e3 here withhyou, evan. >> smith: may we begin with why do we have to choose? why can't we have both? >> chopra: well, my cooauthor preferred it that way. i would haveecalled it science and spirituality. the new version is going to have that subtitle. >> smith: it will actually eliminate the controversy. >> chopra: it will evolve to -úa ew level, yes. >>>smith: the confli

-nd also by mfi foundation, improving the quality of liff ithinnour community.nd also by tte alice -leberg reynolds foondatton and viewers like you. &->> smith: i'm evan smith. he's a veteran ournaliss and prolific author whose measured, congenial presence on public television has been a welcomm respite from3 the incivility oo the world -or more than four decades. his eight billlonth book -ú i'm not sure tatts an justt-ubllshed tension city. ú&'s jim llhrer. this is overreard. >> smith: jim lehrer,, welcome. >> lehrer: thank you, evan. >> smith: or i should say wellome back. texas. in austin, texas and i love >> smmth: well thank youu3 good to see you, and congratulations. this book is so much fun to >> lehrer: oh, teerific. >> smith: as i grrw up watching political debates all these memories kind of accumulated, and everythiig &-know.f stuff i didn't someone who has forgotten more abbut debates than most of us will ever know, it that'' exactly right.l ofúthe t. fortunate experiences. one was moderating all these debates. >> smith: right.3 >> leerer: the other w