that there should be special treatment for manufacturing and even more special treatment for advanced mfing. he was advancing saying as a general principle that he wanted to broaden the base and take away a lot of the preferences, but, but he felt that given the spillover benefits of manufacturing for innovation, for exports, and what do we export? we export manufactured products, and what do we import? manufactured products. yes, the services are growing, but there is no way to get out of the trade deficit or improve the current account deficit without a significant increase in exporting manufacturing exports, and you will hear that later from fred. you can basically call it industrial policy or manufacturing policy, but what the administration has concluded is that for spillover benefit reasons, there are lots of things that policy can do with the small adjustment that will give some preference to manufacturing. that is one area where i have seen the industrial policy, and let me give you another area. from small companies how they came together to talk about what they viewed to be the im