let's alexander andreevich hmm i 'm on the topic as a whole, firstly, the nkvd then the mgb and the kgbn, yes, in order to start working with them as terrorists, including urinating toilets, they must be recognized as such. uh, and not a state, but organizations and, for example, uh, a military organization to be recognized as a terrorist. well, it will be quite difficult. uh, the main thing i wanted to say is a model case. eh, with a bandera. i think that for us it should be precisely, the working model was first in moscow. here is a correspondence session, at which bandera was sentenced to death, and then they went to execute it. no matter where if tomorrow a trial will be held in moscow, which will condemn budanov in absentia to capital punishment. that's when i'll see, we're already open and time. it won't be a waste of time. we must stay wasting time about wasting time. i can say that what was then, as it were for all intents and purposes, understand me correctly , it was a little further, it was western ukraine after all, maybe there was even something at all outside the soviet un