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overall, a bad night for the security services, mi5 and scotla nd the security services, mi5 and scotlandt khuram butt, first of all, a pakistani born and then came to britain with his parents, britain granted them refugee status, just like the parents of the killer from the manchester attack. khuram butt in the background of the channel 4 documentary called the jihadis in the background of the channel 4 documentary called thejihadis next door. he was free to carry out the attack. even worse but the security services, he did fall under investigation but was deemed not to bea investigation but was deemed not to be a threat of the investigation was pulled back. also, within the story in the telegraph, the third individual who was not named, was also named to the security services. the question now will be, is there a gap in the legislation, do the security services need more power to ta ke security services need more power to take somebody like khuram butt on, if he isn't explicitly planning an attack but looks like a real risk to safety of the public? what else can be done in terms of legi
overall, a bad night for the security services, mi5 and scotla nd the security services, mi5 and scotlandt khuram butt, first of all, a pakistani born and then came to britain with his parents, britain granted them refugee status, just like the parents of the killer from the manchester attack. khuram butt in the background of the channel 4 documentary called the jihadis in the background of the channel 4 documentary called thejihadis next door. he was free to carry out the attack. even worse...
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this, what is the sense of the kind of questions mi5 are facing?re facing? i think more questions about whether or mi5 missed any opportunities. with the name of this attack came acclaim from italian authorities that they stopped him going to syria and passed on these detailed to british intelligence, either mi5 or mi6. they are not confirming what was said but it makes clear he was in some way to british authorities but not under investigation. khuram butt, we knew yesterday was under investigation but we heard, we heard more details of these warnings from people about extremist behaviour but also violent confrontations. that will raise questions about whether the accumulation of warning signs meant he should have been pushed higher up the priority list of mi5 and put under more surveillance. the police point to the context. they point to 3000 subjects of interest in who they are investigating and have to prioritise. they say the threat is unprecedented and point to other attacks and they still have this investigation into the london bridge attack
this, what is the sense of the kind of questions mi5 are facing?re facing? i think more questions about whether or mi5 missed any opportunities. with the name of this attack came acclaim from italian authorities that they stopped him going to syria and passed on these detailed to british intelligence, either mi5 or mi6. they are not confirming what was said but it makes clear he was in some way to british authorities but not under investigation. khuram butt, we knew yesterday was under...
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how is it that the police and mi5, mi5, rather, appeared to work galal —— appeared to allow one of thethere are questions about why he was not watched. he was known to authorities and appeared in documentaries about extremists, he had been reported by other people because of their concerns and was even linked to a group, alhaji maroon, where people were involved in terrorism. he was looked at by mis but in terrorism. he was looked at by mi5 but when they looked at him a couple of years ago they saw no signs of him planning an attack. he was kept under investigation. you may think that means you are being under surveillance all the time, but that isn't the reality unless you're at the very top tier of targets because there are 3000 people under investigation and there aren't the resources to do that. that kind of intensive surveillance only comes if they think you are planning an attack and in this case they saw no signs of that until it was too late. many people may say that given the events of saturday, he should be in the top tier of people they were looking at. is there any sense of
how is it that the police and mi5, mi5, rather, appeared to work galal —— appeared to allow one of thethere are questions about why he was not watched. he was known to authorities and appeared in documentaries about extremists, he had been reported by other people because of their concerns and was even linked to a group, alhaji maroon, where people were involved in terrorism. he was looked at by mis but in terrorism. he was looked at by mi5 but when they looked at him a couple of years ago...
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a sunny italian terra watchlist, uk police today said that neither they ignored mi5 regarded him asaeither they ignored mi5 regarded him as a person of interest. —— he was placed on the italian terra wrought watchlist. —— mandatory. one of his relatives said he had to find work in the uk. he went to london. he was away for two or three months then came back. he told his parents that he was not coming back because there was work in london, but nothing in italy. the fact that he was flagged in italy put additional pressure on uk authorities to explain why it they did not know of the man. khuram butt was well known to police and mi5, romping searching questions as to whether more should oi’ questions as to whether more should or could have been done to prevent mass murder. we will look at how the processors we re mass murder. we will look at how the processors were followed and what they did. they will be wanting to look at that. because they will want to learn lessons for the future, if there are lessons to be learnt. khuram butt appeared in this channel four documentary on extremists.
a sunny italian terra watchlist, uk police today said that neither they ignored mi5 regarded him asaeither they ignored mi5 regarded him as a person of interest. —— he was placed on the italian terra wrought watchlist. —— mandatory. one of his relatives said he had to find work in the uk. he went to london. he was away for two or three months then came back. he told his parents that he was not coming back because there was work in london, but nothing in italy. the fact that he was...
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placed on the italian terror watch—list, uk police today said neither they nor mi5 regarded him as aitaly, a prosecutor claimed today that british authorities had been tipped off about zaghba, who lived at this house in bologna, one of his relatives said he hoped to find a job in the uk. translation: he went to london, he was away for two or three months and then he came back, he was here for a month and then he told his mother, i'm leaving, he there is nothing and in london i can work. the fact zaghba was a terror suspect in italy adds to the pressure on british security services to explain why they were called blind ahead of saturday's terrible attack, another member of the gang, khuram butt, was well—known to police and mi5, fronting to police and mi5, prompting searching questions as to whether more could or should have been done to prevent mass murder. we will look at how this, how the processes were followed, what they did. they will be wanting to look at that, because they will want to learn lessons for the future, if there are lessons to be learned. he appeared in this channe
placed on the italian terror watch—list, uk police today said neither they nor mi5 regarded him as aitaly, a prosecutor claimed today that british authorities had been tipped off about zaghba, who lived at this house in bologna, one of his relatives said he hoped to find a job in the uk. translation: he went to london, he was away for two or three months and then he came back, he was here for a month and then he told his mother, i'm leaving, he there is nothing and in london i can work. the...
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based on the italian terror watch uk police today said neither they nor mi5 regarded him as a personly, a prosecutor claimed today that british authorities had been tipped off about youssef zaghba, who lived at this house in bologna, one of his relatives said he hoped to find a job in the uk. translation: he went to london, he was away for two or three months and then he came back, he was here for a month and then he told his mother, i'm leaving, he there is nothing and in london i can work. the fact it was a terror suspect in italy adds to the pressure on british security services to explain why they were called blind ahead of saturday's terrible attack, another member of the gang, khuram butt, was well—known to police and mi5, fronting searching questions as to whether more could or should have been done to prevent mass murder. we will look at how this, how the processes we re will look at how this, how the processes were followed, what they did. they will be wanting to look at that, they want to learn lessons for the future, if there are lessons to be learned. he appeared in this
based on the italian terror watch uk police today said neither they nor mi5 regarded him as a personly, a prosecutor claimed today that british authorities had been tipped off about youssef zaghba, who lived at this house in bologna, one of his relatives said he hoped to find a job in the uk. translation: he went to london, he was away for two or three months and then he came back, he was here for a month and then he told his mother, i'm leaving, he there is nothing and in london i can work....
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year—old khuram butt was a british pakistani living in east london and he had been known to police and mi5other attacker was rachid redouane, 30 years old,
year—old khuram butt was a british pakistani living in east london and he had been known to police and mi5other attacker was rachid redouane, 30 years old,
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mi5 is watching 3000 people. is this sustainable?20,000 people who are of interest and the difficulty is, what is the weapon, the weapon is access toa carand is the weapon, the weapon is access to a car and potentially a knife and that's all these people need is in the past, it would have been chatter about explosives. they were looking at the real clues that somebody might have been trying to a bomb that here, this is access to a car. they are rightfully saving, there was no hint they didn't pick up any i'iews. was no hint they didn't pick up any news. the other thing is, how much of this was inspired by being a copycat. maybe there wasn't a long lead time. maybe they saw that attack in march and it's only in re ce nt attack in march and it's only in recent weeks they have decided to make their attack here in london bridge so short lead time and wheel weapons to talk about. this article and many of them pick up on the fact that he is filmed in a tv documentary about extremism and many are asking the question, in this particular case
mi5 is watching 3000 people. is this sustainable?20,000 people who are of interest and the difficulty is, what is the weapon, the weapon is access toa carand is the weapon, the weapon is access to a car and potentially a knife and that's all these people need is in the past, it would have been chatter about explosives. they were looking at the real clues that somebody might have been trying to a bomb that here, this is access to a car. they are rightfully saving, there was no hint they didn't...
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and the british prime minister has announced a review by police and mi5.re are growing concerns that warnings about two of the attackers were not followed up. the third attacker was youssef zaghba, a 22—year—old italian national of moroccan descent. italian authorities say he was stopped from travelling to syria last year and his name was then shared with british authorities. this report from our home editor mark easton. the faces of a self appointed death squad. we now know the identities of all three men who went on a killing spree in london on saturday night, today police naming this man — youssef zaghba — as the third member of the gang. zaghba was born in fez in morocco, to a moroccan father and italian mother. 22 years old, he recently moved to east london where he worked in a restaurant. but last year he was stopped by security forces at bologna airport, in italy, on suspicion of trying to make his way to fight in syria — literature relating to so—called islamic state in his bag. placed on the italian terror watch—list, uk police today said neither
and the british prime minister has announced a review by police and mi5.re are growing concerns that warnings about two of the attackers were not followed up. the third attacker was youssef zaghba, a 22—year—old italian national of moroccan descent. italian authorities say he was stopped from travelling to syria last year and his name was then shared with british authorities. this report from our home editor mark easton. the faces of a self appointed death squad. we now know the identities...
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khuram butt was 27, a british pakistani living in east london and was well known to police and mi5.he second attacker was rachid redouane, 30 years old, also from east london. this report from our home editor mark easton. they knew him. one of the three men who murdered seven people in london on saturday night was well known to police and mi5 as an extremist. documentary voiceover: the group display the black flag of islam. khuram butt, featured in a channel 4 documentary last year on radical islamists in britain. its title — thejihadis next door. so how was he able to go on to kill until counterterrorism officers shot him dead? police have tonight confirmed the names of two of the attackers. khuram butt, a 27—year—old from a british—pakistani family. he lived in barking in east london and was married with two children including a young baby. in the last few years, he worked for kentucky fried chicken and was a customer service advisor at transport for london. less is known about rachid redouane. police and security services say he was unknown to them before the attack but is unders
khuram butt was 27, a british pakistani living in east london and was well known to police and mi5.he second attacker was rachid redouane, 30 years old, also from east london. this report from our home editor mark easton. they knew him. one of the three men who murdered seven people in london on saturday night was well known to police and mi5 as an extremist. documentary voiceover: the group display the black flag of islam. khuram butt, featured in a channel 4 documentary last year on radical...
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police today said that neither they nor mi5 regarded him as a person of interest. in italy, a prosecutor claimed today that british authorities had been tipped off about zaghba, who lived in this house in bologna. one of his relatives said he hoped to find a job in the u.k. >> he went to london. he was away for two or three months, then came back. t was here for a month, and he told his mum, "i'm leaving. in london i can work." reporter: the fact that he was a terror suspect in italy as to -- adds to the pressure on british security services to explain why they were caught blind by the saturday attack. another attacker, khuram butt, was well known to police and mi5, prompting questions about whether more should have been done to prevent mass murder. prime minister may: we will look at how the processes were followed, they will want to look at that because they will want to learn lessons for the future if there are those lessons to be learned. reporter: butt appeared in this channel 4 documentary on radical islamists last year, linking him to extremist preacher ahme
police today said that neither they nor mi5 regarded him as a person of interest. in italy, a prosecutor claimed today that british authorities had been tipped off about zaghba, who lived in this house in bologna. one of his relatives said he hoped to find a job in the u.k. >> he went to london. he was away for two or three months, then came back. t was here for a month, and he told his mum, "i'm leaving. in london i can work." reporter: the fact that he was a terror suspect in...
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khuram butt, 27 years old, british, living in barking, was known to the police and mi5.had been a supporter of a banned islamist extremist group and had been reported to the anti—terrorist hotline by suspicious neighbours. but the police say they had no intelligence to suggest he was planning saturday night's attack. one other attacker was named — rachid redouane who was thirty and claimed to be moroccan/libyan and also lived in barking — the police say he had not previously come to their attention. tonight questions as to why khuram butt in particular was not a greater priority for the security services and how they missed a plot that has killed seven people. our home editor mark easton has more. they knew him. one of the seven people who murdered seven people on the weekend was known as an extremist. khuram butt, featured in a channel 4 extremist. khuram butt, featured in a channel a documentary last year on radical islamist in britain. its title was thejihadis next door. how was he allowed to go on to kill until counterterrorism officers shot him dead? police have ton
khuram butt, 27 years old, british, living in barking, was known to the police and mi5.had been a supporter of a banned islamist extremist group and had been reported to the anti—terrorist hotline by suspicious neighbours. but the police say they had no intelligence to suggest he was planning saturday night's attack. one other attacker was named — rachid redouane who was thirty and claimed to be moroccan/libyan and also lived in barking — the police say he had not previously come to their...
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ba by was well known to police and mi5 as an extremist. there is nothing to suggest he was planning an attack —— so, they insist. nothing to suggest he was planning an attack -- so, they insist. the group displayed the black flag of islam. he featured in a channel 4 documentary last year about radical islamist in the neighbourhood. he was twice reported to the authorities. in recent years, he worked at kentucky fried chicken and was a customer services adviser at transport for london. that is known about the second attacker, 30—year—old rachid redouane, also from barking and claimed to be of libyan moroccan descent. they. —— yesterday, londoners came together for a dignified show of solidarity. among the victims, christine archibald who had come to london to be with her fiance from canada. archibald who had come to london to be with herfiance from canada. this man's family tried to come to terms with the fact that this man's ba nkca rd with the fact that this man's bankcard was found on one of the bodies on london bridge. bankcard was foun
ba by was well known to police and mi5 as an extremist. there is nothing to suggest he was planning an attack —— so, they insist. nothing to suggest he was planning an attack -- so, they insist. the group displayed the black flag of islam. he featured in a channel 4 documentary last year about radical islamist in the neighbourhood. he was twice reported to the authorities. in recent years, he worked at kentucky fried chicken and was a customer services adviser at transport for london. that...
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of the three men who murdered seven people in london on saturday night was well known to police and mi5mist. documentary voiceover: the group display the black flag of islam. khuram butt, featured in a channel 4 documentary last year on radical islamists in britain. its title — thejihadis next door. so how was he able to go on to kill until counterterrorism officers shot him dead? police have tonight confirmed the names of two of the attackers. khuram butt, a 27—year—old from a british—pakistani family. he lived in barking in east london and was married with two children including a young baby. in the last few years, he worked for kentucky fried chicken and was a customer service advisor at transport for london. less is known about rachid redouane. police and security services say he was unknown to them before the attack but is understood to be 30 years old, claiming to have a libyan or moroccan background. until last year, he lived in dublin with a scottish partner, but according to irish prime minister enda kenny, was not known to the security services. and observed in respect of radi
of the three men who murdered seven people in london on saturday night was well known to police and mi5mist. documentary voiceover: the group display the black flag of islam. khuram butt, featured in a channel 4 documentary last year on radical islamists in britain. its title — thejihadis next door. so how was he able to go on to kill until counterterrorism officers shot him dead? police have tonight confirmed the names of two of the attackers. khuram butt, a 27—year—old from a...
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police and mi5 have not called for new powers yet.s. gordon corera, bbc news. the prime minister has accused technology firms of not doing enough to remove jihadist propaganda. theresa may called for international agreements to regulate cyberspace to prevent the spread of extremist material. google, facebook and twitter say they‘ re investing significant resources in fighting the spread of extremism. amol rajan looks at the criticisms facing social media companies. if you know what you are looking for, it is easy to find extremist propaganda on the internet. online magazines and videos with high production values that glamorise the struggle to establish a colour that are shared widely on social media and messaging apps. the spotlight is on the technology platforms that host such material. despite public concern, google and twitter declined a request for an interview, and not for the first time. google said they invest millions in fighting abuse. facebook say they work aggressively to remove terrorist content. twitter said such materia
police and mi5 have not called for new powers yet.s. gordon corera, bbc news. the prime minister has accused technology firms of not doing enough to remove jihadist propaganda. theresa may called for international agreements to regulate cyberspace to prevent the spread of extremist material. google, facebook and twitter say they‘ re investing significant resources in fighting the spread of extremism. amol rajan looks at the criticisms facing social media companies. if you know what you are...
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from my time working in downing street i know the challenges facing mi5.rutiny of him. is that the right thing to do? it has to be based on the intelligence they have. you wouldn't put him under curfew with an electronic tag? in terms of the top category, those are people who are being actively being followed all the time. you need to look at the powers the security services and the powers the security services and the courts have to deal with these people. now, you mentioned tpims, that's one way. it is important that we look at the legislative base to see if there are other measures to control the movement, to control their ability to for example get access to vehicles, you know, look at how they plan this and see if there are other powers we need to control their movement, short of active constant surveillance and putting them in prison and that's what the home secretary and the prime minister have been talking about. brian, what would you... you mentioned tpims, you can put them under curfew, electronically tag them, you can move them away from where t
from my time working in downing street i know the challenges facing mi5.rutiny of him. is that the right thing to do? it has to be based on the intelligence they have. you wouldn't put him under curfew with an electronic tag? in terms of the top category, those are people who are being actively being followed all the time. you need to look at the powers the security services and the powers the security services and the courts have to deal with these people. now, you mentioned tpims, that's one...
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did officials at mi5 know this, and if so, what kind of watch list was he on?een asked about khuram butt. he'd even been filmed in a documentary about british islamist extremists. the police knew all about him, but didn't think he represented an imminent threat. these are the black flags of islam. this one is actually the flag of the islamic state... but one of the other faces in the documentary was siddhartha dhar, now a member of so—called islamic state. in 2014, under investigation for allegedly encouraging terrorism, he jumped bail and travelled to syria with his wife and children. he's thought to have appeared in several is propaganda videos. given these connections, what more should have been known and done about the london bridge plotters? i have no doubt that they will be looking into, if there were lessons to be learned, what went wrong, did they know about this man, did they act rightly, and i'm sure in due course they'll be letting us know what went on. what i think‘s improperfor me to do, without seeing all the facts, to comment about that, but clea
did officials at mi5 know this, and if so, what kind of watch list was he on?een asked about khuram butt. he'd even been filmed in a documentary about british islamist extremists. the police knew all about him, but didn't think he represented an imminent threat. these are the black flags of islam. this one is actually the flag of the islamic state... but one of the other faces in the documentary was siddhartha dhar, now a member of so—called islamic state. in 2014, under investigation for...
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. >> dana: the mi5 in 2015 said they are under pressure and today they said they have 3,000g bodies they are watching. they have 500 who are high risk and thousands that are former jihadists. before it's hard to prioritize these animals. the guy, low-moderate risk. can you imagine the high risk guys you are looking at? i can't believe this guy with on welfare. the welfare terrorists. welfare jihad. if you're holding up up and iss flag in the middle of the city -- if someone walks like a terrorist and talks like a terrorist, they are probably a terrorist. if you are a terrorist sympathizer, you are an unlit fuse and all it takes is one strike of a match and kaboom. people are dead. they have to start rounding up unlit fuses right away because they can't let this stuff happen over and over again. it's kind of like child pornography. treat it like an offense, it's a one policy. if someone shows an interest or is online talking about it, boom. throw the book at them. you have to do the same thing with jihadists. >> dana: what we have been worried about for the past 5-6 years, we were going t
. >> dana: the mi5 in 2015 said they are under pressure and today they said they have 3,000g bodies they are watching. they have 500 who are high risk and thousands that are former jihadists. before it's hard to prioritize these animals. the guy, low-moderate risk. can you imagine the high risk guys you are looking at? i can't believe this guy with on welfare. the welfare terrorists. welfare jihad. if you're holding up up and iss flag in the middle of the city -- if someone walks like a...
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the 47—year—old suspect is believed to be darren osborne, a father of four from cardiff, unknown to mi5picion of attempted murder and then of terrorist offences. as he left, with handcuffed hands, he waved to the crowd. can we take any more terror prime minister? the prime minister arrived at the scene, visiting finsbury park mosque. the terrible terrorist attack that took place last night was an evil act borne out of hatred and it has devastated a community. i'm pleased to have been here to see the strength of that community coming together all faiths, united in one desire to see extremism and hatred of all sorts driven out of our society. there is no place for this hatred in our country today and we need to work together as one society, as one community, to drive it out, this evil that is affecting so many families. the prime minister's visit came i2 hours after the van ploughed into a group of worshippers, theresa may clearly wanting to be seen among the community that was attacked, as soon as possible. jeremy corbyn, who is the local mp, was up much of the night talking to his const
the 47—year—old suspect is believed to be darren osborne, a father of four from cardiff, unknown to mi5picion of attempted murder and then of terrorist offences. as he left, with handcuffed hands, he waved to the crowd. can we take any more terror prime minister? the prime minister arrived at the scene, visiting finsbury park mosque. the terrible terrorist attack that took place last night was an evil act borne out of hatred and it has devastated a community. i'm pleased to have been here...
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the times says that mi5 ignored a warning from the italian authorities, that one of the london bridgeed to be a terrorist‘. the daily telegraph says that italian—moroccan youseff zaghba was placed on an international watch list of suspected terrorists. the daily mirror reports that british authorities were warned of zaghba after he tried to flee italy to fight in syria. kate, front page of the financial times, theresa may targeting heartlands and ramping up anti—terror rhetoric. they are really going to go for it in the last 2a hours of campaigning. those seats in the north and the midlands that they believe they could take from the other side. absolutely, she did this and the start of the campaign. she was going after seats that had 8000 majorities for labour, unusual places for the tories to be campaigning. chris bailey and —— chris grayling was in bolsover. here she is, as the financial times reports, the last two days of campaigning, going back out to the labour heartlands and specifically the ones who supported brexit. absolutely, it's the ukip vote that they are after, they beli
the times says that mi5 ignored a warning from the italian authorities, that one of the london bridgeed to be a terrorist‘. the daily telegraph says that italian—moroccan youseff zaghba was placed on an international watch list of suspected terrorists. the daily mirror reports that british authorities were warned of zaghba after he tried to flee italy to fight in syria. kate, front page of the financial times, theresa may targeting heartlands and ramping up anti—terror rhetoric. they are...
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khuram shazad butt known to the police and mi5.intelligence suggesting the london attack was being planned. he appeared in a local news documentary dialed the jihadis next door and seen praying with a group of radical muslims. finally rachid redouane was from a neighborhood in east london and on police and mi5 radar. andrew peek joins us now. when we talked on sunday we didn't have all these details about these three. now it seems like for at least two of them there were interactions with authorities who had legitimate concerns about them. >> that's right. a couple of things jump out at me. one the deportation laws in the u.k. are horribly broken. this moroccan italian suspect only about a dozen people in britain have been deported over the past 10 years. it points to for me a real inability to the authorities when they get a terrorism suspect to send them back to italy, morocco or wherever. >> shannon: a dozen in 10 years? >> from 2005 to 2015. the last data we have. a real hole in their security. >> shannon: that's a shocking num
khuram shazad butt known to the police and mi5.intelligence suggesting the london attack was being planned. he appeared in a local news documentary dialed the jihadis next door and seen praying with a group of radical muslims. finally rachid redouane was from a neighborhood in east london and on police and mi5 radar. andrew peek joins us now. when we talked on sunday we didn't have all these details about these three. now it seems like for at least two of them there were interactions with...
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. >> british authorities say police and mi5 had no knowledge of youssef zaghba. an italian newspaper reports that he had been arrested with a one-way ticket to syria, flagged as a radical and british authorities were notified. this followed the identification of the other two attackers, rachid redouane, largely unknown. khurum butt, so well known for radical ideology british channel 4 identified him in a documentary. segments have been rerun by sky news, abc, cnn. he was investigated in 2015 but ultimately determined not to be a threat. >> the police and mi5 will be looking at who these characters were, what we know about them. if there are lessons to be learned from this, of course we will learn them. >> and an unprecedented move, 130 muslim imams have refused to say funeral rites for the attackers. a statement says that the reprehensible actions have neither legitimacy or sympathy. >> i believe they are not muslim. >> are there your enemies? to go they are enemies of islam. >> rex tillerson applauded the refusal. >> they are condemning their souls. that's what
. >> british authorities say police and mi5 had no knowledge of youssef zaghba. an italian newspaper reports that he had been arrested with a one-way ticket to syria, flagged as a radical and british authorities were notified. this followed the identification of the other two attackers, rachid redouane, largely unknown. khurum butt, so well known for radical ideology british channel 4 identified him in a documentary. segments have been rerun by sky news, abc, cnn. he was investigated in...
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but at the same point in time, mi5 and mi6 -- leland: respectfully, there are groups of muslims that are weeding out hate preachers, and there's groups of muslims that turn a blind eye, and then there are governments, whether it be the saudis, the qataris, yemenis or whoever else, who will allow their citizens to contribute to these hate preachers. it seems much more of a scale than the big bucket of tolerant muslims and the small bucket of, shall we say, intolerant or radical muslims. >> we call it a big layer cake problem, okaying? on the bottom layer of this how do we figure out engagement with the saudis and qataris especially when they're looking at hegemony battles. on top of that, how do we deal with this inside of the european arena? because the europeans themselves either engage or they don't engage. mi5 and mi6 have this let's address it now, be reactionary to it, but let's have no long-term policies. and i think they have a lot to learn from us as americans, but we ourselves are also in the process of revamping our cve efforts. leland: what does that mean? >> countering vi
but at the same point in time, mi5 and mi6 -- leland: respectfully, there are groups of muslims that are weeding out hate preachers, and there's groups of muslims that turn a blind eye, and then there are governments, whether it be the saudis, the qataris, yemenis or whoever else, who will allow their citizens to contribute to these hate preachers. it seems much more of a scale than the big bucket of tolerant muslims and the small bucket of, shall we say, intolerant or radical muslims. >>...
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admitsropolitan police that he was known to the police .nd mi5 police say they had opened an investigation in 2015 but dean that he was a low priority. >> several british papers are picking up on this. many people feel it is strange that some unknown to intelligence services slipped through the net, and not for the first time. time inis the third three months and there were previous cases as well. you see here a photo of the murder of lee rigby carried out by two known extremists. what is particularly alarming about this case is the fact that this man that we were talking about had links to a suspect in the london bombings back in 2005, so quite a while ago. according to the times, this 27 euros man worked for a man accused of helping to train the july 7 bombing ringleader. a lot of papers are alarmed by these revelations that have come out in the times that perhaps this man was known for quite a while. police say there was no intelligence to suggest that this attack was being planned, so therefore they prioritize the investigation accordingly. >> another big story coming out of the gulf,
admitsropolitan police that he was known to the police .nd mi5 police say they had opened an investigation in 2015 but dean that he was a low priority. >> several british papers are picking up on this. many people feel it is strange that some unknown to intelligence services slipped through the net, and not for the first time. time inis the third three months and there were previous cases as well. you see here a photo of the murder of lee rigby carried out by two known extremists. what is...
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mi5 has its alert level at the second highest alert, which is severe, not at critical.that means -- that says to me that police didn't know of any particular event or plot that they were on the watch for, they were just still on the watch for another thing that they hadn't expected like the london attack. of course, you know the london police and the overall security services have taken a lot of grief for not having kept watch on at least one of the suspects in that attack because he had been on a watch list before, he had been a vocal jihadi follower, an isis follower. but let's reel it back. in this case all we knot this point is a number o pedestrians have been hit in a location that's not where you would expect a terrorist group to hit. so a lot of questions, and i will be watching what british media says because they very carefully in cooperation with the authorities tend not to use the word "terrorism" until security officials start using that word publicly. >> again, there is no indication at this time that this is any kind of terrorist attack, but that's the fea
mi5 has its alert level at the second highest alert, which is severe, not at critical.that means -- that says to me that police didn't know of any particular event or plot that they were on the watch for, they were just still on the watch for another thing that they hadn't expected like the london attack. of course, you know the london police and the overall security services have taken a lot of grief for not having kept watch on at least one of the suspects in that attack because he had been...
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red wayne was not known to mi5 the british intelligence agency.ew search for possible accomplices is unfolding this morning near their homes. >> the mayor of london has called on the british government to cancel a state visit from president trump. this comes after a flurry of tweets from trump criticizing mayor sadiq khan. kahn first said he wasn't going to respond to trump but then in a.m. interview last night kahn said i don't think we should roll out the red carpet to the president of the u.s.a. in circumstances where his policies go against everything we stand for. >> 4:41. a hollywood a-lister is taking on the role of joe paterno. find out who is playing the part of the late penn state football coach in a new movie. >> a dunkin donuts looks like a wrestling match as a man heaves a table and a chair at another person. david. >> lots of clouds on the bus stop, a little bit of drizzle and in some cases a pretty good downpour coming through right now. 62 degrees by 6 o'clock, 61 by 8 o'clock so it stays on the cool side, too. and you might want t
red wayne was not known to mi5 the british intelligence agency.ew search for possible accomplices is unfolding this morning near their homes. >> the mayor of london has called on the british government to cancel a state visit from president trump. this comes after a flurry of tweets from trump criticizing mayor sadiq khan. kahn first said he wasn't going to respond to trump but then in a.m. interview last night kahn said i don't think we should roll out the red carpet to the president of...
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daniel: the 47-year-old suspect is believed to be darren osborne, father of 4 from cardiff, unknown to mi5. he was arrested on suspicion of murder, and then terrorist offenses. he waved to the angry crowd. >> can't take anymore terror, prime minister. daniel: by lunchtime, the prime minister had arrived close to the scene of the attack, visiting the finsbury park mosque, one of 2 whose worshipers were caught up in the violence. prime minister may: the terrible terrorist attack was an evil act born out of hatred and it has devastated a community. i'm pleased to see the strength of that community coming together, all faiths united in one desire to see extremism and hatred driven out of our society. there is no place for this hatred in our country today. we need to work together as one society, one community, to drive it out, this evil that is affecting so many families. daniel: the prime minister's visit came just over 12 hours after the van plowed into a group of worshipers. theresa may clearly wanted to be seen among the community as soon as possible. jeremy corbyn, who is the local mp, wa
daniel: the 47-year-old suspect is believed to be darren osborne, father of 4 from cardiff, unknown to mi5. he was arrested on suspicion of murder, and then terrorist offenses. he waved to the angry crowd. >> can't take anymore terror, prime minister. daniel: by lunchtime, the prime minister had arrived close to the scene of the attack, visiting the finsbury park mosque, one of 2 whose worshipers were caught up in the violence. prime minister may: the terrible terrorist attack was an evil...
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did officials at mi5 know this, and if so, what kind of watch list was he on?'d even been filmed in a documentary about british islamist extremists. the police knew all about him, but didn't think he represented an imminent threat. these are the black flags of islam. this one is actually the flag of the islamic state... but one of the other faces in the documentary was siddhartha dhar, now a member of so—called islamic state. in 2014, under investigation for allegedly encouraging terrorism, he jumped bail and travelled to syria with his wife and children. he's thought to have appeared in several is propaganda videos. given these connections, what more should have been known and done about the london bridge plotters? i have no doubt that they will be looking into, if there were lessons to be learned, what went wrong, did they know about this man, did they act rightly, and i'm sure in due course they'll be letting us know what went on. what i think‘s improperfor me to do, without seeing all the facts, to comment about that, but clearly there are legitimate questi
did officials at mi5 know this, and if so, what kind of watch list was he on?'d even been filmed in a documentary about british islamist extremists. the police knew all about him, but didn't think he represented an imminent threat. these are the black flags of islam. this one is actually the flag of the islamic state... but one of the other faces in the documentary was siddhartha dhar, now a member of so—called islamic state. in 2014, under investigation for allegedly encouraging terrorism,...
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police and the security service here at mi5 have not so far been pushing for new legislation.powers in themselves would have been enough to detect or disrupt the recent attacks. the real debate, though, may be up around resources in the face of what they say is an unprecedented threat. armed police stood guard at westminster today, spotters on the roof. the demands of protecting the public and investigating attacks has, it said, left the counterterrorism network stretched. the metropolitan police commissioner today said it meant officers had been pulled from other duties. we are shifting resources and people across the met. this has impacted other investigations. we've had to pause some, had to slow down some, and that's just a necessity. the legacy of the last four months and concern over further attacks will make tackling terrorism and extremism one of the defining issues in the coming parliament, whether or not new laws are on the agenda. stay with us on bbc news. still to come, scientists in bolivia fight to preserve the future of our planet, by storing ice from ancient gl
police and the security service here at mi5 have not so far been pushing for new legislation.powers in themselves would have been enough to detect or disrupt the recent attacks. the real debate, though, may be up around resources in the face of what they say is an unprecedented threat. armed police stood guard at westminster today, spotters on the roof. the demands of protecting the public and investigating attacks has, it said, left the counterterrorism network stretched. the metropolitan...
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mi6, mi5, lots of intelligence, those think they can offer to the european union.but they are certainly a lever. this is from someone watching in london, will the negotiations tackle much greater issues now or will they wait for the general election switch off the top of my head are september 24? i don‘t thing there is any bigger issue in my view than the border between north and south and that took up the bulk of the conversation today. if britain withdraws from a customs union, how‘d you get that invisible border between north and south which is so crucial to the belfast agreement? neitherside wa nts to belfast agreement? neitherside wants to see a border in place between north and south but how‘d you get there? technically it is very difficult because northern ireland could be used as a back door into the european union. that will ta ke into the european union. that will take a lot of discussion i think. what was the question again? what role is the german election going to play in this? will they pushed the big issues behind the german election in case there is
mi6, mi5, lots of intelligence, those think they can offer to the european union.but they are certainly a lever. this is from someone watching in london, will the negotiations tackle much greater issues now or will they wait for the general election switch off the top of my head are september 24? i don‘t thing there is any bigger issue in my view than the border between north and south and that took up the bulk of the conversation today. if britain withdraws from a customs union, how‘d you...
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the 47—year—old suspect is 47—year—old darren osborne, and man not known to mi5, but darren osborne,lays are now investigating for any racist views he might have expressed in the past. by he might have expressed in the past. by lunchtime the prime minister had arrived close to the scene of the attack. she visited finsbury park mosque, one of two whose worshippers we re mosque, one of two whose worshippers were caught up in the violence. the terrible terrorist attack that took place last night was an evil act borne out of hatred and it has devastated community. i am pleased to have been here today to see the of that community coming together, all faiths, united in one desire to see extremism and hatred of all source driven out of our society. there is no place for this hatred in our country today and we need to work together as one society, as one community, to drive out this evil thatis community, to drive out this evil that is affecting so many families. the prime minister's visit came just over 12 hours after the van ploughed into a over 12 hours after the van ploughed intoa group
the 47—year—old suspect is 47—year—old darren osborne, and man not known to mi5, but darren osborne,lays are now investigating for any racist views he might have expressed in the past. by he might have expressed in the past. by lunchtime the prime minister had arrived close to the scene of the attack. she visited finsbury park mosque, one of two whose worshippers we re mosque, one of two whose worshippers were caught up in the violence. the terrible terrorist attack that took place last...
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the 22—year—old wasn't regarded as a security threat by police or mi5 that today questions for the homehba was stopped at polonia airport last year on suspicion of travelling to syria. italian police say he was placed on a watchlist british authorities tipped off. border security staff are accused of still allowing him to return to the uk. the home office has declined to comment. the australian government says two of its nationals are among the seven people killed. their names haven't been officially confirmed. kirsty boden, a senior nurse at guy ‘s hospital, murdered as she ran to help people who'd been knocked down on london bridge, described as selfless, caring and heroic. the family of sara zelenak, a nanny from brisbane, say they are fearing the worst. she is one of those people that doesn't drink, doesn't do drugs, doesn't do anything wrong. she's amazing, and she's 21 years of age. french media have confirmed the death of alexandre picard. sebastien boulanger‘s family have travelled to london to find out what has happened to the chef. desperate days for so many you've found thems
the 22—year—old wasn't regarded as a security threat by police or mi5 that today questions for the homehba was stopped at polonia airport last year on suspicion of travelling to syria. italian police say he was placed on a watchlist british authorities tipped off. border security staff are accused of still allowing him to return to the uk. the home office has declined to comment. the australian government says two of its nationals are among the seven people killed. their names haven't been...
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the 47—year—old suspect is believed to be darren osborne, a father of four from cardiff, unknown to mi5murder at first, and then of terrorist offences. as he left, with handcuffed hands, he waved to the angry crowd. can we take any more terror prime minister? by lunchtime, the prime minister arrived close to the scene, wisiting finsbury park mosque, one of two whose worshippers were caught up in the violence. the terrible terrorist attack that took place last night was an evil act borne out of hatred and it has devastated a community. i'm pleased to have been here to see the strength of that community coming together, all faiths, united in one desire to see extremism and hatred of all sorts driven out of our society. there is no place for this hatred in our country today and we need to work together as one society, as one community, to drive it out, this evil that is affecting so many families. the prime minister's visit came just over 12 hours after the van ploughed into a group of worshippers, theresa may clearly wanting to be seen among the community that was attacked as soon as poss
the 47—year—old suspect is believed to be darren osborne, a father of four from cardiff, unknown to mi5murder at first, and then of terrorist offences. as he left, with handcuffed hands, he waved to the angry crowd. can we take any more terror prime minister? by lunchtime, the prime minister arrived close to the scene, wisiting finsbury park mosque, one of two whose worshippers were caught up in the violence. the terrible terrorist attack that took place last night was an evil act borne out...
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boris johnson would not either, and he is in charge of mi5. not either, and he is in charge of m15.ill. it is a bizarre thing to say as a criteria. jeremy corbyn and trident, etc, yeah, 0k. criteria. jeremy corbyn and trident, etc, yeah, ok. but this test with m16 is weird. frankly, if he is elected prime minister by the people of this country, he is entitled to briefings. it also begins by saying it is shocking people have not talked about how shockingly dangerous it will be for the nation if he gets in. obviously, this has been an election like no other. we we re been an election like no other. we were interrupted twice by horrific terrorist atrocities. and the times is reminding us of that with the front page. they have the election off to the side. a picture of the london bridge attackers meeting outside a muslim gym in barking before the attack. two pieces of footage. one is the three demented individuals meeting a few days beforehand. five days before the atrocity. presumably as part of their planning. they walked away from the cctv camera for ten minutes. perhaps they were aw
boris johnson would not either, and he is in charge of mi5. not either, and he is in charge of m15.ill. it is a bizarre thing to say as a criteria. jeremy corbyn and trident, etc, yeah, 0k. criteria. jeremy corbyn and trident, etc, yeah, ok. but this test with m16 is weird. frankly, if he is elected prime minister by the people of this country, he is entitled to briefings. it also begins by saying it is shocking people have not talked about how shockingly dangerous it will be for the nation if...
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she really had a massive future ahead of her, and she'll be hugely mi55ed by all of us. victims have been named so far. five—year—old. and mohammad alhajali, a 23—year—old syrian refugee. once i asked him, why are you studying civil engineering? he laughed and said, because i want to go back to syria when the war is over, and help rebuild the country. he said, they will need us. this is the kind of person he was. this wall has become a focal point for the community, a place for people to leave tributes, to write down me55age5, and express their thoughts and feelings about what happened. it's also a place where, even today, family members and friends have posted pictures of those they desperately want to hear from. what do i expect? well, i'm hoping, basically, they are in the hospital. even if it means they are unconscious, but they are in hospital, that's what i'm hoping. i feel angry, i feel sad, i feel everything. i miss my friend, my friend is inside, but i can't do anything. she's there, but i can't help her. i saw her the same day before she died. morning and after
she really had a massive future ahead of her, and she'll be hugely mi55ed by all of us. victims have been named so far. five—year—old. and mohammad alhajali, a 23—year—old syrian refugee. once i asked him, why are you studying civil engineering? he laughed and said, because i want to go back to syria when the war is over, and help rebuild the country. he said, they will need us. this is the kind of person he was. this wall has become a focal point for the community, a place for people...
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did officials at mi5 know this and what kind of watch list was he on? he was even filmed in a documentary about extremists. the police knew about him, but didn't think he represented an imminent threat. these are the black flags of islam. this one is actually the flag of the islamic state. but one of the other faces in the documentary was a man now a member of so—called islamic state. in 201a member of so—called islamic state. in 2014 under investigation, he jumped bailand in 2014 under investigation, he jumped bail and travelled to syria with his wife and children. he is thought to have appeared in several is videos. given these connections, what more should have been known and done about the plotters in london?” have no doubt that they will be looking into if there were lessons to be learned, what went wrong, did they know about this man, did they and i'm sure in due course they will let us know what went on. but clearly there are questions raised which are not unreasonably journalists and members of public are asking. one day the whole world... many
did officials at mi5 know this and what kind of watch list was he on? he was even filmed in a documentary about extremists. the police knew about him, but didn't think he represented an imminent threat. these are the black flags of islam. this one is actually the flag of the islamic state. but one of the other faces in the documentary was a man now a member of so—called islamic state. in 201a member of so—called islamic state. in 2014 under investigation, he jumped bailand in 2014 under...
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father of fourfrom cardiff, unknown to to be darren osborne, a father of four from cardiff, unknown to mi5picion of attempted murder and then of terrorist offences. as he left, he waved to the crowd. can we take any more terror prime minister the prime minister arrived at the scene, visiting finsbury park mosque. the terrible terrorist attack that took place last night was an evil act borne out of hatred and it has devastated a community. i'm pleased to have been here to see the strength of that community coming together all faiths, united in one desire to see extremism and hatred of all sorts driven out of our society. there is no place for this hatred in our country and we need to work together as one society, as one community, to drive it out, this evil that is affect soing many family —— affecting so many families. the prime minister's visit came i2 families. the prime minister's visit came 12 hours after the van ploughed into a came 12 hours after the van ploughed intoa group came 12 hours after the van ploughed into a group of worshippers, theresa may clearly wanting to be seen among
father of fourfrom cardiff, unknown to to be darren osborne, a father of four from cardiff, unknown to mi5picion of attempted murder and then of terrorist offences. as he left, he waved to the crowd. can we take any more terror prime minister the prime minister arrived at the scene, visiting finsbury park mosque. the terrible terrorist attack that took place last night was an evil act borne out of hatred and it has devastated a community. i'm pleased to have been here to see the strength of...
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police and the security service here at mi5 have not so far been pushing for new legislation.wers in themselves would have been enough to detect or disrupt the recent attacks. the real debate though may be about resources in the face of what they say is an unprecedented threat. armed police stood guard at westminster today, spotters on the roof. the demands of protecting the public and investigating attacks has, it's said, left the counter—terrorism network stretched. the metropolitan police commissioner today said it meant officers had been pulled from other duties. we are shifting resources and people across the met. this does have an impact on other, for example, investigations. we've had to pause some, we've had to slow down on some and that's just a necessity. the legacy of the last four months and concern over further attacks will make tackling terrorism and extremism one of the defining issues in the coming parliament, whether or not new laws are on the agenda. gordon corera, bbc news. in the past hour, the iraqi military is reporting that so—called islamic state have b
police and the security service here at mi5 have not so far been pushing for new legislation.wers in themselves would have been enough to detect or disrupt the recent attacks. the real debate though may be about resources in the face of what they say is an unprecedented threat. armed police stood guard at westminster today, spotters on the roof. the demands of protecting the public and investigating attacks has, it's said, left the counter—terrorism network stretched. the metropolitan police...
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—year—old suspect is believed to be darren osborne, a father of four from cardiff, a man unknown to mi5lice are now investigating for any extremist or racist views he may have expressed in the past. by lunchtime, the prime minister had arrived close to the scene of the attack. visiting finsbury park mosque, one of two whose worshippers were caught up in the violence. the terrible terrorist attack that took place last night was an act borne out of hatred and it is has devastated a community....
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mi5 is tracking 500 investigations with some 23,000 potential jihadists feared operating throughout thecountry. yet liberals say nothing is wrong. liberals like hbo's john oliver suggests britain isn't worried about terror. he calls people like me outcome up people. here is john oliver hours after the latest terror attack. >> obviously wasn't up uplifting demonstration of quintessentially british defiance. the british people are never going to let terror to change their way of life. just look at this footage of people being evacuated. you see the one guy there? he refused to leave his pint of beer behind. that is a one-man walking "keep calm and carry on" posture. >> eric: sorry, john oliver. real brits are actually worried. the ones who travel without security details. they fear more terror. ramadan still has 17 days to go. not all muslims are evil, but there sure seems to be many who have radicalized. understand this, john. being stuck on stupid and pretending everything is okay isn't proud or british or tough. it is just what i said, stupid. your fake outrage, comments, getting a few
mi5 is tracking 500 investigations with some 23,000 potential jihadists feared operating throughout thecountry. yet liberals say nothing is wrong. liberals like hbo's john oliver suggests britain isn't worried about terror. he calls people like me outcome up people. here is john oliver hours after the latest terror attack. >> obviously wasn't up uplifting demonstration of quintessentially british defiance. the british people are never going to let terror to change their way of life. just...