there is something that sticks in my craw about celebrating mcdaniel so many years ago for playing a miad, -- maid, and i want you to win, but i am ambivalent. >> here is the first thing that we should address. for me, anthony hopkins won for being a serial killer with a cannibal. and charlize thrown -- theron won for being a serial killer, so it does not strike me that the economy would nominate villains, but i do not have a problem with nominating these two earnest, hard-working women, and we have never seen the story from their perspective, be it as a maid that a white woman wrote the source text, but the fact is, -- . as it may -- be it as it may that a white woman wrote the source text. i am pleased that you are happy for us, because a lot of people are not, but i do understand. >> that very mindset that you have and that a lot of african- americans have is absolutely destroying the black artist. the black artist cannot live in a place in a revisionist place. the black artist can only tell the truth about humanity, and humanity is messy. people are messy. caucasian actors know that.