we want to bring in former new york state new york michael balboni. he was named chairman of new york's homeland security committee following 9/11 is now is a senior fellow at the homeland security policy institute. what are your thoughts now? >> what's happening now is there really is no timeline. i know that everybody is very anxious to see this guy and it's very hard to imagine that with all these assets and some what tight area, as it were, why you can't find this guy, but i know from experience that these types of manhundredths, there's really no playbook here. the case in 2007, they had a guy named bucky phillips in upstate new york. he alluded thousands of law enforcement auchlsofficer s for and weeks. we hope we're going to find this guy. but it's very likely that either he found a way to get out or he's found some place that the police just haven't been able to find yet. and so it's going to take a very methodical and very tension-filled search that's going on right now. >> so, michael, is there not a critical time frame in which, you know, f

>> thank you so much, michael balboni. we have joining us u.s. congressman ed marqmarkey from massachusetts. krystle campbell comes from medford, mass. >> well, that's -- that's basically the story here. it's not a story just about boston. it's a story about all of massachusetts. this is the one day where the whole state comes together. it is an event where everyone knows one of the runners or everyone knows someone who went to see the marathon. it brings the entire state together. and she is just a perfect example of someone who was an innocent victim in this whole story, and everyone in the state is empathizing with her, her family and everyone and every one of their families that has been affected by this tragedy. >> what do you make of being a boston red sox fan like everyone else up there? it comes to you, part of your baptism up there, you become a sox fan. what do you make of them? they're going to play "sweet caroline" down at the yankees stadium tonight in honor of your city and your state. >> you know, we have a special bond with new yo

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team, the former prosecutor, kimberly guilfoyle and former new york state homeland security, michael balbonys with us. when i hear -- first i was shocked, doctor, then i'm hearing these acts of heroism, people's limbs are flying over other people's head, the extent of injuries, this is to create maximum damage. these people in the hospital, will they make it. >> people at the scene who are not trained in a war zone, because these are the kind of injuries you see in iraq and afghanistan, hats off to those who stabilized them. they had to apply turn -- tourniquets. in the hospital you have the hospital people taking over, who are trained, and they have to decide to do an amputation, a leg can be saved, take them to the o. r., whether there will be an inflection creeping in. so far it looks pretty good. 15 in critical condition, 10 am buttations so far. the trick is, and these are among the top hospitals in the country, these are the best hospitals in the country, i think there's been heroism all the way along the line here. >> i agree. even the medical staff that was there to help the runners

let's ask michael balboni and former secretary of public for the state of new york and now with red windegies, a security firm. thanks for joining us. these suspects they used improvised explosive devices. they ended up at the finish line. they put one of those devices right between an eight-year-old little boy, martin richards and six-year-old sister. just to cut to the chase, is there anything that could have been done to avoid that happening? >> in reality, not really. 26-mile event like this, it's so hard. you have to redouble your efforts. it's a combination of technology of reengaging the public to see something and say something. better intelligence or take a better look at what local law enforcement is seeing. this was my worst nightmare. who didn't have a prior criminal record. someone that got radicalized without a footprint and dame out of nowhere. components for the bomb can be bought at a local store. >> heather: is this something we should see from now on and how do we protect ourselves without becoming a police state? >> the 9/11 cut off the head of al-qaeda. the ability t