former director of homeland security for the state of new york michael balboni joining us now. of the questions we have to ask what is the ability for them to project what they did there here? these attacks tend to be local in nature. they don't tend to have -- david: not worldwide. >> because takes a lot of planning and training to be able to develop the bomb itself. you don't transport those things very easily. what we you saw here, this is an attack that took place after obviously preoperational surveillance to find out what the timing was of the event and to use the transportation by rail as opposed to a car. david: by the way even if there was a lone terrorist suicide bomber, catherine herridge, great reporter that we have, has discovered that it appears to intel officials both over in britain and here, that the sophistication of the bombing design would have required some kind of help outside of what that terrorist had for himself. >> very true because these are devices that are not easily made. not something you can cook up in yourasement. in addition which there are log

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. >> joining us form new york state homeland adviser michael balboni, there were 400 police officershe scene in manchester where do they take it from here. >> two things that happened simultaneous, first you have the trying to stabilize obviously take care of injured, but you also have to sweep make sure no secondary swies something else out there secure the scene, second is investigation, that begins immediately by taking a look at who saw what, what kind of camera feeds can you get there is a lot of cameras involved in this arena. and then you tree to i obviously step back say who was this individual what did they have access to in terms of minions, who do they work with, is there a possibility of another cell of another wave attack always concern you begin with perimeter secure perimeter move inside make sure everybody is contain care of then you begin that really important investigation. >> in terms of what happened last night, i think that what is so deeply disturbing to everyone, is the fact that children were clearly targeted ariana grande headliner last night fan base childre

. >> julie: i'm joined now by michael balboni, former new york homeland security advisor who joins us here in the studio. it's very important to note for those at home, wondering why police would conduct a police chase in times square, here's why. they did not know necessarily what the motive was behind the man. they did not know whether this man was a terrorist who was seeking out to kill so many people. so they have to make that matter of a second life or death decision, and that is the pressure that the nypd and era law enforcement in the country are up against. just tell me how you believe that would play into the role of the nypd trying to pursue somebody like this who could potentially kill dozens of people. >> law enforcement's mission has changed after 9/11. before, it really was to react -- obviously if you could prevent something, do that, but now it is about trying to anticipate and stop a terrorist event. what has happened, of course, is that al qaeda and isis have gone too low-tech. they've tried to take anything and it turned into a weapon. we saw this in france, germany

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operative, julian cayenne, former assistant secretary of the department of homeland security, michael balboni, former new york state security director and chris cillizza, editor at large. guys, we're discussing the politics of this because that's what we were watching with this hearing, the director of national intelligence asked to corroborate this report that the president asked him to publicly deny there was any investigation. chris cillizza when you heard the dni say, you know, it's not appropriate for me to characterize these discussions, what did that sound like to you? >> that he's not denying it. look, you know, dan coats is someone who's been around a very long time. he was a senator from indiana, left, came back and represented indiana in the senate before being named dni. he knows how this works. if he wanted to, felt comfortable with making a full-scale denial -- no, president trump never asked me to knock down talk of collusion in the wake of the investigation announced by james comey -- he would have done that. that's a setting in which you could do it. he knew, of course, he wa