the two-part question is for michael bender. who gave the order. i want to know who the person is who gave the order to the entire media complex to ignore the will of the people bike can legally halting and stopping the election results of our president by refusing to report who won the election. now it did not come down to one state like it did with bush and gore with florida. because fox news reported arizona way ahead of the biden winning arizona. they obviously knew he won arizona when it was showing w trump was way ahead at the time for it cannot be about the ballots. fox already had arizona ahead. so who gave that order? that is what i would like to know. >> guest: well there was no order for the immediate to report this one way or the other. news organizations, fox news to the associated press had put years of research and millions of dollars into the technology to project winners and get it right. his reputation of news organizations on these organizations. not only to be first but to be correct. getting too far deep in the woods here. the

the two-part question for michael bender, who gave the order?to know who the person is who gave the order to the entire media complex to ignore the will of the people by completely halting and stopping the election results of our president by refusing to report who won the election. it did not come down to one state mica did with bush and gore with florida. because fox news reported arizona way ahead of biden winning arizona. they obviously knew he won arizona when it was showing trump was way ahead at the time. it cannot be about the ballots because of fox arizona head. so, who gave that order? that is what i would like to know. >> there was no order for the media to report this one way or the other. news organizations, fox news to the associated press had put two project winners get it right. the entire reputation on these decisions. how many ballots are left, a lot has been written on this. in the news organizations brought a way to explain their methods and procedures for these calls with. >> call for youal on twitter with the description of

host: our just is michael bender . he is wall street -- our guest is michael bender. he is the author of "frankly, we did win this election: the inside story of how trump lost". welcome to welcome journal. let's start with the title of the book. i wanted to pay -- i wanted to play a short segment. president is at the white house. let's take a listen at that moment. >> this is a fraud on the american public. this is an embarrassment to our country. we were getting ready to win this election. frankly, we didn't win this election. host: michael bender, an iconic moment. why did you choose that moment? >> it underscored how president trump catapulted his own reality. this is the night of november 3. we did not know he had lost. we did not know biden had one --won rita trump ad-libbing very clearly that he --won. trump ad-libbing very clearly. his messaging is trying to impose his own reality on the current situation no matter what the facts are. host: the other thing about that moment is i was wondering if i was up for that. if it like for me people in the room were encou

michael bender joins us now. that has come out from your book and it is so nice to have had a chance to read the whole thing. >> thank you so much. >> i want to talk about that, but i want to start with a bigger question, something i asked almost every week during the trump presidency, whether it was after charlottesville or -- hole countries or after that debate. why didn't anybody feel dishonor working for him? why didn't anybody quit? >> hmm, that's a really good question, and something that, you know, the folks around donald trump will have to answer. and i think what i found reporting this book is that they all have a little different answers, and that -- that trump's priority from day one at the white house was always to win reelection. everything was secondary to that. i don't -- i had a hard time finding anyone else around him who would put that as their top priority. he had people who wanted to pass tax bills, people who wanted to get immigration reform done, people who wanted to run, you know, form tech

here is the operative line by the "wall street journal" michael bender quote, barr told trump the fraud allegations were bullshit and the team he put around himself were clowns but only said it to trump. nobody broke through the wall of lies and liars around trump. i'll speak to bender about his reporting in a moment. but first, biden's takedown of trump today comes as a war is being waged between texas lawmakers tonight. >> in texas for example, republican led state legislature wants to allow partisan poll watchers to intimidate voters and impartial poll workers. they want voters to dive further and be able to be in a position where they wonder who is watching them and intimidating them, to wait longer to vote. to drive a hell -- excuse me, a long way to get to vote. they want to make it so hard and inconvenient they hope people don't vote at all. that's what this is about. >> texas governor tonight threatening to arrest the 57 democratic lawmakers who fled the state in an attempt to derail republican attempts to pass a controversial voting rights bill. a short time ago vice president

as you point out, michael bender, some were. have that fascinating episode in here where he is with general mark milley, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, after the death of gedeath ofgloorved. george floyd. he said, we need to crack their heads, shoot them if necessary, and milley says no. >> that's right. this is in june of 2020. if you recall, trump opened up the year in 2020, really primed for re-election. yes, he had just been impeached, but he survived it. his poll numbers were as high as they have ever been. the issue he w wanted to run on was the economy and the chee was red-hot. then all of a sudden the covid happened and george floyd died. he lashed out at the people around him. he tried to back to his law and order image at any cost. and you are right, it fell to general mark milley. the top general in the world's most top military was the only one who could sit in front of trump and tell him no. he points to the portrait of abraham lincoln behind trump, and tells him, that man, sur, had an insurrection, what

bender has been located. michael, as you are saying, the question was about the depth of his sincere embrace of the big lie and how, if it all it has migrated. >> yeah, that's right. what biden is talking about questioning the shamelessness of congressional republicans. this book lays out methodically from start to finish about how shamelessness was the president political superpower here. and how the people around him, their biggest concern was not cast in the white house, but that he was so desperate to hold on to political power that he became violent and reckless and unhinged. the story in here that he wanted to shoot americans who were protesting put lease brutality. his own secretary of state, mike pompeo, thought trump might lean into a war in those final months in order to hold on to political power. so when trump is talking about, when he claims that voting rights distrust effectively a loaded term as a way to encourage fraud in the elections, a sizeable portion of the base, the republican base believes him.

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host: our just is michael bender . he is wall street -- our guest is michael bender.he author of "frankly, we did win this election: the inside story of how trump lost". welcome to welcome journal. let's start with the title of the book. i wanted to pay -- i wanted to play a short segment. president is at the white house. let's take a listen at that moment. >> this is a fraud on the american public. this is an embarrassment to our country. we were getting ready to win this election. frankly, we didn't win this election. host: michael bender, an iconic moment. why did you choose that moment? >> it underscored how president trump catapulted his own reality. this is the night of november 3. we did not know he had lost. we did not know biden had one --won rita trump ad-libbing very clearly that he --won. trump ad-libbing very clearly. his messaging is trying to impose his own reality on the current situation no matter what the facts are. host: the other thing about that moment is i was wondering if i was up for that. if it like for me people in the room were encouraging h

tonight, michael c. bender on his new book, frankly, we did win this election. >> then, he was on the front lines during the attack on the capitol. now he's fighting for answers about the insurrection. my exclusive interview with d.c. police officer michael fanone. >>> plus, texas democrats do it again. escaping austin to stop new voter restriction laws again. one of those democrats joins me live. >> and two decades later, how joe biden became the president who will end america's longest war. "all in" starts right now. >> good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. i want to begin tonight by showing you a moment from this week's cpac conference that says a lot about where we are as a country and the ongoing danger of the current conservative movement. now, i'm going to confess, and you might be thinking the same thing, i was on the impression there was already a cpac this year. apparently, republicans really wanted to have another one. you know, covid happened and then everyone is in the conference mood. this

>> michael bender is a fairly renowned journalist.didn't put this in if he couldn't back it up, and it does fit into a longstanding history of trump mitigating the actions, the words and histories of white nationalists and white supremacists. recall in 2017 when he said that the white supremacists at the charlottesville rally that ended up with a woman dead called some of them, there were problems i'm paraphrasing both sides and some of them were very fine people. it's not a surprise that trump would try to find some way to justify his admiration for a certain policy by saying okay, he did yada yada but some of the things he did were fine. this case it happened to be hitler. >> yeah, and it is jaw-dropping to say the least. tina nguyen, thank you for your reporting and being with us as we look ahead to the news conference as afternoons you can call it that. we're not sure if the former president will take questions in 40 minutes. >>> coming up on "msnbc reports" on the ground with kabul with new nbc news reporting on the withdrawal of

i want to read you something that michael bender reports about pompeo. he writes this.ly, the nation's top diplomat worried that foreign adversaries might try to exploit the domestic instability. he conveyed concern to others that trump might be more willing to engage in an international conflict to strengthen his political argument for remaining in office. pompeo organized a daily call with general milley and mark meadows, white house chief of staff. mike pompeo thought trump was going to wag the dog, and so he had a call every day with the chairman of the joint chief and the chief of staff, who when he got off the phone with pompeo was e-mailing doj to ask them to overturn the election. i mean dereliction of duty. what is the right word for that scene? >> well, i think it is absurd, first, that it had to happen, that anybody at the secretary cabinet level position of any administration would think they had to do this. but one thing i want to point out is let's look at the people who are trying to portray themselves as heroes there. attorney general barr for the first

the inside story of how trump lost by author michael bender chronicles the aftermath of trump's electionhis. this is from mike pompeo, former secretary of state. quote, the crazies have taken over, secretary of state mike pompeo warned a colleague. he conveyed concern to others that mr. trump might be more willing to engage in an international conflict to strengthen his political argument for remaining in office. >>> joining us now michael bender, who is also the senior white house reporter for the washington journal. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> i started with the pompeo book. from a 30,000 foot view, i think this is the thrust of what your book gets into, which is that so many people inside the white house and in trump world felt that the president was dangerous. >> yeah. >> felt that he was dangerous, yet didn't take it public. >> that's right. i think we are all pretty familiar with the story of the chaos of trump's four years, whether it's the administration or the president himself. what this book lays out pretty me tho methodically and for the first time how dangerou

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trump himself denied the conversation to michael bender.as not yet responded to requests for comment. paul rycoff, president of righteous media and the host of independent americans podcast. tim and eugene are still with us. there's so much reporting i'm not going to read all of it now. "the atlantic" reported the same thinned of underdoens and reporting and trump has talked about the germans publicly before. what do you make of these revelations in michael bender's new book and the disparaging comments about general kelly in knocking them down? >> well, it's not a glitch. it's not a slip-up. it's a feature. it's a part of a consistent and ongoing strategy to push certain types of messages and those messages right now are continuing to fuel domestic insurgency and extreme all across america even as someone in the spokesperson's office tries to walk it back, if you're a member of qanon, if you're a member of a group operating in america this is another signal you have the support of the former president of the united states who is continuing

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the think -- michael bender was on cnn talking about how chairman of the joint steefs of happy and.ten to this and then we'll talk about it. >> milley and attorney general bill barr at the whous. >> i visit with national fda. what do they pasch. . let's go to the white house moment. and whapds? they don't end up most kmefrl moments th -- in the biggest one for years. >> he was water cameraing american citizens. i think it comes across in the book that we felt at the time that trump was usurping his power, was acting with a dictatorial bent, was willing to ruin the careers of pentagon officials, career soldiers just to do his media stunt, the photo op stunt. incidentally for viewers, bender is a "wall street journal" writer, highly respected journalist, so when you read his book, you realize that everything he says, you can trust. it's really, really riveting reading. >> doug, charlie, thank you so much. i appreciate it. >>> democrats split on policing with crime up across the country after a summer of calls to defund the police. now some democrats are saying we might actually need m

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. >>> this morning, a series of brand new books, frankly we did win this election by michael bender andel wolf, they shed new light on the final days of the trump administration. brian stelter has the details. >> i alone can fix it. >> reporter: from 2016 to 2020 -- >> frankly we did win this election. >> reporter: donald trump went from deceptive to down right dangerous. >> we won this election. and we won it by a landslide. >> reporter: and three new books using trump's words as titles underscore just how ugly his final days in office were. >> everybody knew that what was going on here was abnormal and dangerous and on top of everything else, ludicrous. >> reporter: in michael wolf's landslide, trump is portrayed as incompetent and alone. >> it's just him and rudy giuliani. >> reporter: wolff writes that no one in trump's inner circle believed trump actually won the election. >> they literally stepped back. so they're not helping him. >> reporter: but outsiders like sidney powell took over and told trump what he wanted to hear. in michael bender's book, frankly we did win this electio

biden wagged his finger at congressional republicans and asked -- >> all right, we have lost michael bender. we are left with a copy of the book. we will get him book. over to you, is anyone in the administration in the circle of reporting and sources that you have, resigned to the fact that accept for kind of long lead-up lawsuit thaus touched on. 2020 may be in danger because of voter restrictions that are moving faster than the democrats? >> well, when i talk to white house sources, they tell me that they are going to just try their best to do all of the different avenues. they have not given up on the idea that congress could pass something but they also are, and they are careful, the white house is not wanting to be involved in talking about the doj, when you talk to people who are sort of white house adjacent and civil rights leaders the other option is the doj route and nominating judges to get to court and stop this. but it goes back to the fact that the supreme court has upheld some of the laws. in 2022, and 2024, the 2022 in particular, it was interesting to hear president biden m

the inside story of how trump lost by michael bender, trump reportedly then told then white house keefe of staff john kelly, quote, well, hitler did a lot of good things. cnn has reached out to john kelly for comment. but the idea that the president of the united states, the leader of the free world would say anything, anything to praise the man responsible for the death of six million jewist people in nazi concentration camps is despicable. hitler did not do a lot of good things, and is not just the former president. this is the undisputed leader of the gop. and his party clear hi has not learned that this is, and i'll say it again, despicable. but first, to rudy giuliani. his law license suspended in the nation's capitol. i want to bring in john avalon and kristin powers. these suspensions are a huge blow for the former manhattan attorney and mayor of new york. he actually ran for president. you actually worked for him, so how are you looking at the situation? >> i think it is a tragedy when you look at the ark of his career. leading the southern district of new york and was revered i

according to a new book by "wall street journal" reporter michael bender, the book says donald trump spoke these utterly loathsome and fully evil words to white house chief of staff john kelly. hitler did a lot of good things. michael bender interviewed donald trump for his book and donald trump denied saying that to john kelly. today, that poisonous statement about hitler attributed to donald trump land in the world, to no surprise whatsoever, none. anyone who has been watching donald trump with an intense disapproval is unlikely to be even slightly surprised that donald trump would think exactly that about the most evil dictator in human history. and supporters of donald trump cannot be surprised that he is reported to have said that, especially donald trump's american nazi supporters. the people who come to his rallies, believing that adolf hitler did a lot of good things, but could have done more. donald trump has supporters who wore t-shirts saying 6 mwe. meaning 6 million were not enough. the problem they have with hitler's murdering 6 million jews is that hitler did not murder

"wall street journal" white house reporter michael bender the author of a new book "frankly we did win book. it has a lot of great nuggets. i have always respected your ability to kind of report from inside the trump administration. i'm going to talk about a couple of these nuggets in our interview. but, one of the things that a lot of people didn't know as it was going on was the infighting that was happening behind the scenes. >> yeah, that's right. i appreciate that bret. i think the big take away for this book for me is i think this is the only one that -- the only trump book really to date that is going to explain this president by going inside the oval office, inside the campaign, and i spend two years embedded with some of trump's most loyal supporters who go to 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 rallies. the take away here is a disconnect a lot of times between trump and his staff. there was -- i have new details about staff being worried about the president's decision-making but also that trump was really not well-served by the constant battles and infighting among his own staff. one example

this was reported by michael bender, a very reputable journalist, based on information from kelly.the only two in this conversation. maybe not directly from kelly, maybe from a third party to whom john kelly reported this conversation. the trump spokeswoman is flat out denying it. so who's telling the truth? john kelly should confirm or not whether trump said this. >> right. of course trump's spokes people have not earned anyone's credibility, but yes, john kelly knows what happened so he should say what happened and what the context was and whether it was true or not. abby, how do comments like trump's, like greene's, play with gop voters? >> i think the very fact that greene is making the comments that she's making publicly and repeatedly tells you that she believes that this is popular in the republican base. and i think that that's probably right. if you are online and you kind of are in the circles where, you know, conservatives, trump conservatives are talking, they make these comparisons too. so it's not as if this is coming out of left field. this is something that has reso

with me now is the man who wrote the book on that very subject, michael bender, "wall street journal"tion: the inside story of how trump lost." friend of the show. finally you're on. i've been jealous watching you everywhere. i'm glad to talk to you. >> looking forward to this, hallie. really glad to be here. >> tgif. election night, the title of this book. some statistics are relevant given right now, the decision to declare victory, spread misinformation was not planned out. this was not like a big strategic plan in the minutes leading up to the speech. you look in the aftermath in arizona that has taken hold of important sections of the party. we're not talking about an historical figure. donald trump is positioning himself to be a force in not just 2022 but 2024, regardless of whether he runs or not. how do you see the thread connecting these things? >> the thread plays out, trump has been promising exactly this, that he would dispute any results not for months or weeks but for years, from 2016 he was telling us the only way he could win was if there was fraud. he detailed years e

and they must speak truth to power when it's difficult. >> you know, doug, michael bender was on cnnarlier tonight talking about how the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, mark milley, and the attorney general, bill barr, didn't intend to wind up in the famous bible photo op from last summer. listen to this, and then we'll talk about it. >> milley and attorney general bill barr ended up at the white house as kind of a lark. milley was in his fatigues. he was going to visit with national guard -- the national guardsmen stationed around the city that night. barr knew they were going to push the perimeter out at some point that day. he'd wanted to see what the progress was. so they decide on, you know, kind of a, heck, let's just go to the white house moment. and what happens? they both end up in one of the most controversial political moments that people are going to be talking about, that historians will be talking about for years. >> doug, you're a historian. give me a quick response to this if you will. >> yeah. what a bizarre scene that was when trump did that, holding the bibl

michael bender and our panel are back to discuss.o you about this during the break. that gets at the character of trump. you report fascinating details about episodes and incidents in. the character of the man behind all that. what did you learn doing this work? >> i wrote and published 1 100 stories. i set out to write something that was different, a different trump book. we all know the story of the chaotic four years of the trump administration. what shocked me writing this book and reporting this book was not that the chaos of it, but how many people around him viewed trump as danger for the country. and this is an example of it back in 2018. there were a lot of people around trump who were worried that he had long given this sort of wink and nod to neo- naziism and far extremist parts of the party. even in milley is worried in a rub up to january 6th, the people trump is bringing into the administration may have tied to neo- naziism. >> milley, you mentioned, and the question for me is trump ignorant of history or choose his mom

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election, the inside story of how trump lost wall street journal senior white house reporter michael bender takes us inside the oval office, aboard air force one and into the front row of those rallies as covert economic collapse. and civil rights upheaval rendered donald trump the 1st incumbent in 3 decades to lose reelection. and the only one whose the feed culminated and violent insurrection from interviews with trump himself key campaigned advisors and senior administration officials and then exclusive collection of internal campaign memos e mails and text messages. vendors never before reported details. draw a straight line from the presidents, repeated insistence that he would never lose to the deadly storming of the u. s. capital that imperiled his most loyal lieutenant, the vice president. and there's a shilling, minute by minute account of exactly what went on in the capital building that fateful day. am, i alone can fix it. donald j trump se catastrophic final year by appeal it surprise winning washington post reporters phil rucker, and carol lending a forensic account of the year

now i want to bring in the "wall street journal's" white house reporter michael bender. michael's the author of the explosive new book "frankly, we did win this election: the inside story of how trump lost." michael, good evening to you. >> hi, don. >> how i've waited for this moment. >> oh, i've been looking forward to it. >> i really haven't been watching all your interviews and said when do i get my chance with michael? here it is. thank you for appearing on this program. >> thanks for having me. >> your book lays out the incredible dysfunction inside the trump white house after the election that no one wanted to tell him that he had lost the election and you write in part, and i quote, "pence, stepien and ronna told themselves they were being respectful of the president and giving him the kind of space he required to blow off steam after an undoubtedly crushing defeat on the biggest stage in politics. but they were also unwittingly creating an opening for giuliani and the most dangerous elements inside trump world, a horrifying nexus of sycophants and sociopaths who w

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michael bender, white house reporter for the wall street journal, talks about his new book, frankly,n this election, the inside story of how trump lost. live at seven eastern sunday morning. join the discussion with your phone calls, facebook comments, text messages, and tweets. ♪ this sunday, c-span premieres generate six: use from the house. 14 members of congress shared what they saw, heard, and experienced that day including markwayne mullin who told us about his conversation with a police officer who fatally shot a woman in the capitol. i guarantee you he has never had a mentor like that before. he didn't want to use force like that. he wasn't want to do that. i know for a fact because after it happened he came over and was physically and emotionally distraught and i gave him a hug and said, sir, you did what you had to do. unfortunately, the young lady, her family promised change and she lost her life. it was unfortunate. the lieutenant's life is change because it is the first time he used lethal force. that doesn't leave you. it was not his choice. he did not show up to work t

. >>> now i want to bring in wall street journal's white house reporter michael bender, the author ofly, we did win this election. the inside story of how trump lost". >> how i have waited for this moment. i was watching all your interviews and said, when do i get my chance with michael. your book lays out the incredible dysfunction in the trump white house that no one wanted to tell him that he had lost the election. they told that they were being respectful of the president and giving him the kind of space he required to blow off steam after a crushing defeat on the biggest stage in politics. but they were creating an opening for giuliani and the most dangerous elements inside trump world, a horrifying nexus of sycophants and you paths who were willing to say anything to keep trump in power and their own feet in the door. >> right. >> so his advisers had confronted trump with the truth, do you think the insurrection could have been prevented? do you think the big lie could have been prevented? >> it is a fair question here, and it is a real failure of imagination from the people clo

. ♪ >>> now joined by john meacham and michael bender. how trump lost." >> let me bring in john meacham to start and make sure -- i want to make sure michael's audio is pretty good. i think we got most of that. john, what's the take away from a lot of the bomb shell reports we are getting now? >> well, i think putin may be interfering with michael's signal there. i think the central take away is that we were in incredible danger and we still are as a republic. this is not a partisan point. these are important revelations that are filling out a picture of a moment in which autocracy and into the rule of law, the things that you care about, that attack was sustained and we managed to pull this out at the very last minute. everybody's luck runs out if we believe in the constitution experiment and democracy. >> michael? >> when it comes to the people who are closest around trump that mark milley and mike pompeo and the mike pences. these types of folks were not concerned about the chaos story that we had been talking about for years. like john

and michael bender, white house reporter for the wall street journal, talks about his new book, franklyd win this election: the inside story of how trump lost. watched c-span's washington journal live at 7:00 sunday morning and be sure to join the discusswi

anecdotes in these best sellers include a section of michael bender's book in which senior officials questioning your mental health, which would make sense because portions of the same book describe you praising hitler to chief of staff john kelly and according to excerpts from a book by carol leonnig and philip rucker, your leadership almost led to the accidental invasion of nigeria. and after all that, you boasted that you could beat george washington in an election. it's enough to make you a loving stock, and even your former so-called friends have taken notice. here's what super bowl champion tom brady had to say at the white house tuesday. >> a lot of people, you know, think that we could have won, and, in fact, i think 40% of the people still don't think we could have on. >> i understand that. >> you understand that, mr. president? >> donald, you've always been a bit of a ridiculous figure with your extreme spray tan and exaggerated combover, but now you're a joke. for four years, many of the professional athletes invited to your white house declined, but they're back now, bein

michael bender is also a white house reporter for the "wall street journal." much. >> your book is fascinating. all of the details that you have in there, all of the people that you spoke to around the president, particularly as the wheels were coming off the bus at different times, but let's just start with the title. "frankly we did win this ele election." what is that his bad on? >> i think of it as one big title, the inside story of how trump lost is as they did a whole bit of to sort of get the joke there that -- first part is a direct quote from donald trump election night after 2:00 in the morning, and this scene is in the book, his advisers force him down into the east room in order to address the nation on election results that are still undecided. it is not clear if biden or trump has won. and trump, you know, in the moment knowing -- was really quite surprised but shocked everybody, went off script and declared victory without really a single shred of evidence. >> and he was hinting even above before the location that even if he lost, he would say t

in his book titled frankly we did win this election, the inside story of how trump lost, michael benderoment in the aftermath of trump's defeat. quote, the crazies have taken over mike pompeo warned a colleague, that mr. trump might be more willing to engage in an international conflict to strengthen his political argument for remaining in office. >> mike pompeo becomes very concerned about the national security of the country, domestic unrest and what it could mean internationally. privately he sets up a call with -- daily call with the chief of staff and mark milley the nation's top general in order to try to keep temperatures down. publicly what does he say? he says that there is going to be a smooth transition to a second trump term. >> reporter: cnn reached out to a representative of pompeo's for a response. he did not comment for the record. another new book, i alone can fix it, donald trump's catastrophic final year, by "washington post" reporters t depicts rudy giuliani pushing trump to forget that fox news called arizona for job. just go declare victory right now, giuliani told

the book's author, "wall street journal"ist michael bender, will be our guest here tomorrow. or tried or succeeded, despite knowing what he was doing was wrong, which ultimately ended in the insurrection at the capitol that took the lives of five people including ultimately the life of capitol police officer brian sicknick. in the words of george conway, the noted trump critic and husband of former trump adviser kellyanne conway, quote, this is going to be the story of the former guy's post presidency, endless revelations of how everyone around him knew he was an incompetent nut job and struggled to keep him from doing incompetent and nutty things while pretending publicly it wasn't incompetent and nutty. joining us now is tim o'brien, senior columnist for bloomberg opinion. tim, i feel you have given me the clearest window into how incompetent and nutty and small ball his business was, and that one of the central problems, the first big lie that he perpetuated on this country was that he was a successful businessman. some of his closest allies say he ran a family office with

. >>> according to a new book written by the "wall street journal's" michael bender, former president18 trip, and we're quoting here, that hitler did a lot of good things. in an excerpt, bender writes, on his way to paris to commemorate the 100th anniversary of the first world war, arm stris, john kelly reminded the president which countries were on which side during the war. kelly continued the discussion by connecting the dots from the first world war to the second world war and all of hitler's atrocities. well, hitler did a lot of good things, trump told kelly. when i asked trump about the remark, he claimed the conversation had never happened and he denied praising hitler. cnn's calls to general john kelly and president trump have not been returned. cnn political director david chalian joins me now. in a long list of outrageous and offensive comments by trump, some on camera and some via private descriptions like this one, this one stands out. i mean it's just incredible. what are your thoughts when you hear this? >> well, i mean, it's a perverted view of history, obviously, from

michael bender, the author of the book, we did win this election, the inside story of how trump lost,cribed the final months today here on msnbc. we know the story of chaos, in the four years of the trump presidency. yu don't need to be a "wall street journal" reporter to know that. what is striking in the reporting of this book is that many in the white house was concerned he was dangerous for the country. he asked his own teammates in the white house to have americans shot. >> right. >> he wanted people protesting civil rights abuses to be shot. they have their skulls cracked. his own secretary of state was concerned that he might lean into a foreign conflict to hold on to power. >> this is where we find ourselves with one of two major political parties orbiting around a twice-impeached one-term president, whose loyal follows are standing on sidewalks and shouting as coronavirus surge thanks to the delta variant. as the unvaccinated account for nearly all hospitalizations and deaths. kicking us off, hayes brown, writer and editor, the former hud secretary, julian castro. he's an msn

just the reporting from michael bender of the wall street journal which we just heard about, the factry of state under donald trump went and arranged daily telephone calls with the white house chief of staff and the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff to make sure we didn't get into a conflict, that is the very thing top advisers were worried about in the final days. the secretary went to the secretary of state and also the nsc and others, and they were -- they formed a packet and told the chair man of the joint chiefs of staff contrary to normal chain of command, he said, you must not, if you get a call from richard nixon or the white house ordering you to fire and to use military force, you must not do that until you clear it with me. that was in direct contradiction to the normal traditions. but there are also striking differences, wolf. just for one more moment, the fact was that what we worried about with trump was that he was crazy, and he's still crazy and he was unhinged and you know he could bring the whole system down. he has all these authoritarian tendencies. richard nix