michael bennett was just on. he said to say hi.ought, that you and he had talked about trying to find a way to stop this. were you guys alone? is that the problem? >> no. we had several others with us that were in a room in my office and we discussed this. frankly, opposed to the last couple of times where we were able to avert this, the leadership was not interested. and there was more of a polarization, which is reflective of the attitudes of the country, in my view, which made it different from the last couple times, where we were able to divert it. have no doubt, we're on a slippery slope. >> what does this mean for the courts? more polarized courts? do you think it will mean americans distrust courts if everybody is far left and far right? >> i think will harm the fairness of our judicial system. look at the approval rating of congress. >> if wasn't for you, it is just friends and family for both of us the days. >> i'm afraid it is, my friend. we've known each a long time. you've gotten worse over the years. >> i understand th

. >> i will say this, michael bennett is in a swing state.ot up this -- he just got re-elected. >> right, right. >> so, he could very easily support the filibuster and maybe not face that many consequences. but one thing to think about here, you make a good point, kate, in terms of his affiliation from the same home state. i would also say, we've heard from a lot more senior members who are on the fence over the last few hours on the democratic side saying they will support a filibuster, so i think it's likely to get to 40, making bennett in some ways able to now say i'm not going to support it, right? probably the right political position for him and one that may not carry all that many consequences for chuck schumer or whoever is rallying the democratic filibuster votes, because it looks like they're either close to or are going to have them anyway. >> interesting, yeah. >> so, keep that in mind, but that's now four. they need eight. i would be very skeptical based on who's left that you're going to get four more people. i think this is goi

and michael bennett of colorado, justice gorsuch's home state, had, i think, the most sensible suggestion party. he said, "let's go to the republicans and say 'we won't filibuster if if if you'll get an agreement when the next one comes up'-- which will probably be a bigger one-- 'if you won't do that by simple majoriti'" basically he was told, "i'm sorry, the base won't allow that. the dispoarnz grass-roots people will go wild. they're still furious about what mitch mcconnell did to merrick garland last time." that would have been a sensible solution but not politically possible. >> rose: how much cooperation is there between mitch mcconnell and chuck schumer. >> it's better than it was between mcconnell and reid and we've only, of course, had three months. i think the message here today if it really comes to crunch time-- we're going to hear a whole lot the next couple of weeks about bipartisan bills, bipartisan cooperation. they will get some. they won't shut down the government. but when it comes to a real crunch, i think there's now precedent that has been set. harry reid started it

you see michael bennett have to weigh this and try to make that argument behind closed doors that maybethis is not the fight they want right now. >> errol, let's talk about health care. the president vowed to fight another day on this. he told "the financial times." i don't lose. i don't like to lose. we will have great health care in this country. on his side, you could say that was just the opening. what happened in those days where the health care bill quickly went down, he does see that as an opening salvo. >> it is very like trump to keep playing until he wins. when he says i don't lose, okay, fine. the game is over and it looks like a big "l" up there. >> the republicans say they will go back to the drawing board. democrats will live to fight another day. >> some of this is the president pushing the republicans in congress to come up with something quickly as opposed to moving at light speed that could take two years. he went faster than light speed. there are two possibilities. one, he takes the easy route and calls it a win. even if all they do is defund a lot of programs and sh

one democrat michael bennett of colorado says he will vote yes on the procedural vote. still undetermined how he will vote at the end. assuming all republicans vote yes, that means there are now 56 votes to close debate on gorsuch. there are only three democrats and one independent left who have not declared their intention on that first vote. a culture vote as they call it. in other words, judge gorsuch needs all the remaining votes to get to 60. that's high drama. as democrats voice confidence he will not get to 60, they are prepared to pull in the nuclear option. >> what i'm telling you is that judge gorsuch is going to be confirmed. the way in which that occurs is in the hands of the democratic minority. and i think during the course of the week we'll find out exactly how this will end. but it will end with his confirmation. >> you're shaking your head listening to leader mcconnell there. you've covered the hill for a long time. there are two huge stories here. number one is does donald trump get a legacy pick. a very young judge on the supreme court. number two, to

denver judge -- the denver appeal judge did get the support of his home state democratic senator, michael bennett three other democratic senators, but all other democrats in the senate voted against him. these are polarized times in the u.s. senate right now and this is a pretty good example. >> julie: it's interesting because charles schumer, democrat from new york, he has been so vocal against this from the very beginning. when gorsuch was still being talked about as one of the names, he was nominated and many believed the democrats would support this man. he was nonpartisan, excellent background, smart education, good middle ground on many legal cases and didn't like to get politically involved in a lot of his judgments. of course, when he was being drilled through those hearings and he didn't answer a lot of those questions, a lot of people, a lot of democrats had a problem with that because they thought he should not be so tight-lipped. if he did, had he actually invoked any kind of personal belief, he could be compromised as a judge. chuck schumer now is trying to delay this vote. it's almo

others will be michael bennett of colorado, john tester of montana and joe donnelly of indiana who could also decide there's no upside to blocking this particular supreme court nominee. i think they're under a lot of pressure at the same time from liberals who certainly want them to hold that seat vacant, who believe at the end of the day, anyone appointed by donald trump will not fit on the iej local cat trip of the party and that could force mitch mcconnell. >> potential long-term implications, what are they if the republicans trigger the nuclear option and what about the poijtd should we be putting all our eggs in one basket. is this something we should be looking to given that antonin scalia was a moderate conservative? >> clearly neil gorsuch, the way of the conservative, is not really outside the mainstream. the problem for democrats he carries the taint of trump. to sabrina's point she's right right. there is no percentage for a democratic senator. no advantage in saying i voted to confirm a trump nominee to supreme court. now, if the nuclear option is triggered, obviously that me

there were a handful of people who protested this on the democratic side michael bennett from colorado gave a speech on the floor saying that this wasn't going to be productive. he was one of the people who voted to -- he voted with republicans on ending debate at the 60-vote flethreshold. you had john mccain when we asked about this earlier this week anyone that said this would be good for a senate is a stupid idiot. there are people that have been around here for a long time that think this is not a good move that think this is going to make senate races more partisan and i believe we have a little bit of sound that we can play from this debate. take a quick look. >> mr. president, this will be the first and last partisan filibuster of the supreme court nomination. >> when history weighs what happened, the responsibility for changing the rules will fall on the republicans and leader mcconnell's shoulders. >> so there you have it. th essential partisan back and forth saying thissn't going to happen again. the rule has now been officially changed so the next time there's a supreme cour

>> jon: i just called my home state bob bennett, it is michael bennett. >> jenna: you cleared it up. we will see you back here in an hour, "outnumbered" starts now. >> we will begin with a fox news alert, the very neatest on what is happening now, the antiterrorism committee set up in russia to deal with the violence has spread across that city. a metro line station set ablaze today with at least one explosion. there were reports of people dead, at least ten people. here is what is new. authorities are saying that they have found a bomb at a second location. they have deactivated that. along the line in russia. and to the associated press is reporting that the russian news, security cameras may have caused a suspect in their view. they are looking at that tape right now to see who this person is. again, this is playing out in st. petersburg, russia, where the antiterrorism committee is fully engaged. they are calling it terrorism very early on. and as we get more information on what is happening along the sublime lane -- so by line in st. petersburg, we will bring it to you. another

. >> jon: i just called my home state bob bennett, it is michael bennett. >> jenna: you cleared it up will see you back here in an hour, "outnumbered" starts now. >> we will begin with a fox news alert, the very neatest on what is happening now, the antiterrorism committee set up in russia to deal with the violence has spread across that city. a metro line station set ablaze today with at least one explosion. there were reports of people dead, at least ten people. here is what is new. authorities are saying that they have found a bomb at a second location. they have deactivated that. along the line in russia. and to the associated press is reporting that the russian news, security cameras may have caused a suspect in their view. they are looking at that tape right now to see who

the entire senate and yet another democrat here has not gone to the gorsuch site, but senator michael bennett of colorado says he will vote for cloture which means he will vote against a filibuster, put him together with democratic senator joe donnelly from indiana, joe manchin from west virginia and heidi heitkamp from north dakota come you can now say that there are 56 votes for gorsuch, that is four shy of the number needed for cloture to avoid a filibuster, still time to find more votes between now and maybe thursday or friday, but if not, mitch mcconnell, senate majority leader may be employing the so-called nuclear option. he does have the support of the president on this, remember what the president said back on february 1st when i asked him about it, listen here. >> if we end up with the gridlock, i would say if you can, mitch, go nuclear, because that would be an absolute shame if a man of his quality was caught up in the web. >> mitch mcconnell told chris wallace on "fox news sunday" yesterday that gorsuch will be confirmed, quite possible he may have to explore the nuclear option.

we're still waiting to hear from michael bennett, colorado th pressure there is because the nominee is from colorado, very highly recorded there. we're still waiting to see what he will do. but the drama, the moments that we have been waiting for from these two members of this committee to see for sure which way thauey would go, ranking member dianne feinstein going to vote no. you're going to hear from a lot of the democrats the same reasoning, they feel in many critical issues''s gone for the big guy over the little guy and on critical cases he's not given them a clear view of what his position is. >> chris jansing. not particularly sizing that dianne feinstein has come out against judge gorsuch. again, the expectation is coons may do what leadership has done. quick reaction to this now. as the math starts to come into focus a little bit. >> you can see what the math is on the vote, are you going to support or oppose this nominee. it is the other question, the question of cloet sure. you can vote against judge gorsuch and still get out of the way anallow him to go to a full vote in t

senator michael bennett says he won't support the filibuster against gorsuch, and corey gardener, he's either of them pays a price for that stance on gorsuch in gorsuch's home state of the colorado. even without michaelbennt, democrats have the votes to mount their filibuster against neil gorsuch to stop him from being confirmed with the court. that showdown will be later this week. today every democrat on the judiciary committee voted against neil gorsuch's nomination, but that was just a signal of the bigger fight that will come over this in the next few days. here's one thing to stick a flag in though in this news today. democrats on the judiciary committee were taking this unified stand against judge gorsuch today, they did something else that got a lot less attention. the judiciary committee also voted to advance the nomination of this man, his name is rod rosen seen the. the white house has nominated him to be the number two official at the justice department under jeff sessions. who's number two is important because the attorney general, jeff sessions, has recused himself. that

confirmation hearing includes questions from south dakota republican john thune and colorado democrats michael bennett. think ise, what do you a reasonable expectation in terms of the growth rate in our economy? historically, you go back to world war ii, averaging about 3.2% year. think is a reasonable growth rate? >> hang on. i'm just looking at some of my notes. the short answer is, i've said publicly, and i believe that we should be able to get to 3% to 4% sustained g.d.p. i think that's absolutely important. i think that as a country, the have isortant issue we economic growth, that whatever republicans oras democrats, i think we can agree that with more growth it's a lot to solve these issues, and we should all be focused on thegs that help grow economy. 7%., we had in 1998, we had 5%. 3%.005, we had that was the last time we had appropriate growth rates. i share the president-elect's growth.of low our number one priority from my standpoint is economic growth. you i will work tirelessly if i am confirmed to the economy and create pro-growth programs. i commit to work with all of you on that. i be

west virginia joe manchin, heidi heitkamp, joe donnelly and colorado michael bennet. bennett from judge gorsuch home state has not said if he will vote yes or no when they get to the up-and-down vote. democrats undecided on all of this for the filibuster. one option is for senator mcconnell to change senate president, which a lot of people called the nuclear option good republican senator lindsey graham expects that to happen. >> this will be the last person that will be subject to a filibuster. which was in effect in 1988. the senate traditiontradition s are going to change over this man is >> the nuclear option is the parliamentary procedure that would lower the threshold and 60 votes needed to end the filibuster to a simple majority vote at the one. this is exactly what democrats did in 2013 when they controlled the senate and they changed the president to run filibusters on executive branch nominees. judge gorsuch to begin tuesday. senator mcconnell to file a cloture petition to end the debate tuesday. the nate could vote as early as friday on the judge. back to you. neil

virginia's joe manchin, north dakota's heidi heitkamp, indiana's joe donnelly and colorado's michael bennett. that leaves senator mcconnell with what's called the nuclear option, and that's a proposal to change senate precedent in order to end the debate, stop the filibuster which says senator lindsey graham says will be historic. >> this'll be the last person that will be subject to a filibuster. which was in effect in 1948. because the senate traditions are going to change over this man. >> reporter: the nuclear option is a parliamentary procedure that would lower the threshold from 60 votes needed to end the debate to a simple majority 51. this is exactly what democrats did, trish, back in 2013 when they controlled the senate and they changed precedent to end republican filibusters on executive branch nominees. if successful, an up or down vote on judge gorsuch would probably come friday afternoon, friday night. back to you. trish: thanks so much, adam. get ready for that big showdown. moreews mingut on th surveillance and the unmasking of the trump team. multiple sources have told fox ne