i know because i've been on the honor roll many times. [ applause ] >> reporter: michael berkowitz isiness leader who caught the holy family spirit. >> it's not about faith, what i believe in or what the students believe in. it's the fact of the goodness that's being done here. it has nothing to do with religion as far as why i would contribute my time and money. it has to do with how well they are treating students. >> reporter: martin marty thinks other faith-based schools, including those that are catholic, would do well to emulate holy family's approach. >> i think the model of the faith-based schools would be an excellent model for catholicism. they are just seeing their parochial schools die by the hundreds across the nation every year. i've been spending enough of my life on campuses to know how conservative structurally educational institutions are, if we've always done it that way it's awfully hard to think of the new. >> sure we're one school, but we're turning out leaders for the community for tomorrow. we're turning out the kids who are going to be able to finish college,