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michael beschloss, he's nbc's presidential historian. it's a beautiful book. it now, michael, as i have been with your other books. it's a great, big epic, and here it comes at a time we have a president who for most people watching right now is dodgy, shaky. you come up with the words. the one thing i heard from trump that i liked in the campaign was, he was going to stop stupid wars. he thought w. was the stupidest president in history because he took us into iraq. and now the way he pushes iran, he kills the deal. well, what's the alternative? he gets tough in his talk around the world. you know, rocket man, things like that. he says he's against war, but my question is could he take us into one? >> yeah, i think he could, chris. and i agree exactly with what you just said. he could do it in two ways. one is he may not have the ability to keep us out. one of the stories i tell in this book that made news is that lbj stopped his commanders in 1968 from bringing nuclear weapons into vietnam, and he said, you know, lock up the documents. stop this. i don't wan

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of the texas book festival t featuring one of our nation's preeminent historians and authors michael beschloss who will talk about his latest book -- wow. [applause] who will talk about his latest book "presidents of war"ut and judging by the size of this crowd no surprise this book now sits at. [laughter] -- that's the wrong book, that's my book, sorry. [laughter] -- that this book is now number three on t the best-seller list. [applause] really michael needs no introduction but i'm going to give a short one. michael isn the author of -- i don't want to disappoint p the author michael is the author of acclaimed books on the presidency including his most recent book. past books have included presidential courage, and the conquerors, he's also the editor of jacqueline kennedy, historic conversations on life with john f. kennedy. michael is the historian from handbooks the news hour, and he is also been tortrade on saturday night live. [laughter] >> michael: is there anything in history that reminds you of president trump? no. >> host: michael is a good friend of this festival, and a good friend

many thanks to michael beschloss, presidential historian.up, elizabeth warren takes a president trump on his million dollar opposition. what the massachusetts senator is trying to prove with a dna test. that is coming next. this is bloomberg. ♪ is bloomberg. ♪ david: this is balance of power on bloomberg television. i am david westin. president trump has continually pressed elizabeth warren on her ancestry. she has claimed native american roots, which the president has mocked with the moniker pocahontas. she has taken it on herself to take a dna test to prove her roots. the president was not impressed. who cares? who cares? i didn't say that. you better read it again. in case you cannot hear that, he said who cares about the dna test and he said he never said he would give $1 million to charity. this is quite a brouhaha. why does it matter? >> this is about the 2020 presidential election. elizabeth warren knows that this is going to be an issue. it is something president trump brings up a lot of his rallies, attacking her. she is gearing up

joining us now is my friend michael beschloss, nbc news presidential historian. michael, it's great to have you with us tonight on a really big night. >> thank you. it is a big night. thank you, rachel. >> in terms of the vote here, i want to mention one little historical piece of trivia here. i mentioned that it doesn't look like -- >> can't wait. >> technically 51-49. it looks like it will be -- if kavanaugh is confirmed with 50 votes, we think that means it will be the lowest total for a confirmed justice since the senate went to 100 members. it would be the narrowest vote since james garfield nominated justice stanley matthews in 1881. that's trivia in terms of the numbers here. but how do you see this as a historian in terms of the context of other very controversial nominations? >> well, it isn't trivia because it does show how close this is and how little real support, little enthusiasm there is for kavanaugh. and, you know, i think this is by far the most controversial nomination in modern times. we always thought in recent years that would be true of clar

joining us now is my friend michael beschloss, nbc news presidential historian. michael, it's great great to have you with us tonight on a really big night. >> thank you. it is a big night. thank you, rachel. >> in terms of the vote here, i want to mention one little historical piece of trivia here. i mentioned that it doesn't look like -- >> can't wait. >> technically 51-49. it looks like it will be -- if kavanaugh is confirmed with 50 votes, we think that means it will be the lowest total for a confirmed justice since the senate went to 100 members. it would be the narrowest vote since james garfield nominated justice stanley matthews in 1881. that's trivia in terms of the numbers here. but how do you see this as a historian in terms of the context of other very controversial nominations? >> well, it isn't trivia because it does show close this is and how little real support, little enthusiasm there is for kavanaugh. and, you know, i think this is by far the most controversial nomination modern times. we always thought in recent years that would be true of clare

let's discuss now with john dean and michael beschloss. john, i'm always happy you're here. michael, i've been courting you for a while, but you belong to someone else. but for the moment, we have you, and we're glad to have you here to talk about -- >> my pleasure, don. glad to be with you. >> john, i'm going to start with you. in court today, mueller's team said they don't know when manafort's cooperation would end. so even after meeting with the special counsel nine times in the last four weeks, it sounds like manafort still has a lot more to say. >> well, it sounded that way in the response to the judge as to when the cooperation might end. and i suspect they don't know because they don't know if he's going to appear in any trials. they don't know if he's going to be before the grand jury additionally. there would be lots of factors that would make it unpredictable for them. but it's obviously the special counsel is going forward full steam. >> yeah. so, john, manafort could be sentenced to over a decade in prison, but given that he's met with mueller's team so much, do y

with us tonight, nbc news presidential historian michael beschloss. have the very best news for patriots and lovers of american history alike, and that is that michael's new book is out, the result of years of work on his part. it is called "presidents of war." it is now available wherever you buy books. michael, i know he didn't get that story out of one of your books, because i've read them all. what do you make of -- who is talking to him and what did you make of what we just heard? >> uh, i think -- i'm glad at least he's talking about a historical figure. it's not quite the way it happened. and i think maybe grant was recognized a little bit in the past, not just these days. >> yes, i had heard his name before. >> once or twice. i think we've even discussed him. >> i'm on page 526, which is this much book. and thank you for this book, i'm enjoying it thoroughly. >> delighted. >> let's talk about presidential power. and the right to start or escalate, if not the right, the ability to start or escalate a conflict. and what i know to be your concern

joining me, michael beschloss. i have watched you on television, read you, and i think everyone is trying to articulate just how deeply abhorrent and anomalous this behavior from this individual in this office is. give it another shot. >> right. well, you know, i spend my whole life looking for historical parallels, chris, and i am striking out because i've never seen a president encourage violence this way. so unwilling to fulfill his role to unify the nation. and also just so lacking in empathy. you know, maybe one runner-up. you know, one thing i was reminded of through all this, in the spring of 1972 george wallace was campaigning for the democratic nomination for president. and he was shot in maryland and the news was brought to richard nixon and he was told that there was a suspect, arthur bremmer who lived in milwaukee. about nixon's first reaction was, well, maybe we should get someone to plant literature for george mcgovern in bremmer's apartment so that people will think that george mcgovern was behind th

with us tonight, nbc news presidential historian michael beschloss. his book is out. led "presidents of war." it's available wherever you buy books. michael, i know he didn't get that story out of one of your books because i read them all. what do you make of -- who is talking to him and what did you make of what he heard? >> i think the -- i'm glad at least he's talking about a historical figure. it's not quite the way it happened. and i think maybe grant was recognized a little bit in the past, not just these days. >> yes, i had heard his name before. >> once or twice. i think we've even discussed it. >> i'm on page 526, which is this much book, and thank you for this book. i'm enjoying it thoroughly. >> delighted. >> let's talk about presidential power and the right to start or escala escalate, if not the right but ability and what i know to be your concern right now in 2018. >> well, the idea of the founders was it should be done by congress in a war decoloration,, haven't been any of those since 1942, presidents can in a way get involved into wars almost single ha

so i want to bring in now presidential historian michael beschloss, author of "presidents of war: thec story from 1807 to modern times." it is a fascinating read and we appreciate you joining us. you tweeted out something this morning that really helped me, lifted my spirits. >> glad to hear it. >> this was president kennedy's final speech. he never got to deliver it because he was assassinated. will you read what you tweeted this weekend? >> sure. this is a speech he was going to give at a dinner in austin, texas, the night of november 22nd, 1963. and it was at a time the country was divided over civil rights, divided over a lot of different issues, and kennedy understood that a big part of his job was to unite the nation in time of crisis, exactly what we're not seeing with president trump. what he said was, neither the fanatics nor the fainthearted are needed and our duty as a party is not to our party alone but to the nation and indeed to all mankind. he says, our duty is not merely the preservation of political power but the preservation of peace and freedom. so he says -- listen

. >> nawaz: on our bookshelf tonight, author and presidential historian michael beschloss sat down with judy woodruff re to discuss his latest book, "presidents of war." >> woodruff: micelel beschloss,me. the book is "presidents of war: the epic story of 18 07 to modern times." we know it's presidents of war and not at war. there is a reason for that. >> there is, because a lot ofs this presidents deciding to go to war and not always the way you think. ortry to tell this stin a new way from beginning to end, esd there are a lot of tim when presidents got us into wars that were not necessary and were based on false reasons, for instance, james polk contrived an attack by the mexicans against us mainly because he wanted a big war against mention doe expand the country to the pacific, or william mckinley in the 1890s, the american ship "the maine" was sunk off havana. we went into a big war against spain. turns out it was a boiler accident, not thanish. >> woodruff: why is the decision to go to war so important to you i understanding these presidents? >> that's what the founders were worri

joining me now is white house correspondent kelly o'donnell, and michael beschloss, presidential historianhe author of the new book "presidents of war." welcome both. kel kelly, first to you, and we understand that the president is meeting now with brock long his fema director and other officials on the storm obviously, but nikki haley's rather surprising are resignation effective at the end of the year certain lu opens up a lot of oquestions about her motivation, and who is coming next. i have been told that dina powell is on the short list, and the president then confirmed that yesterday. and first of all, why now? why leaving before the election? >> well, some of the people that i have talk ted to in the republican circles have said that by announcing now, but she will depart her role by the end of the year, she is effectively have served half of the president's term, and that is a considerable a amount of time not unusually short given the larger issues of the pressures f of being a part of the trump administration, and by announcing now, it is before any verdict is rendered by the vot

got to go now to michael boesch lo -- beschloss. michael, you heard the treatment.ackground, homage to ken jones. your reaction to what the president said? brought up grant because of the geography. you're reaction to the yarn he spun last night? >> my feeling, wry dhy didn't ie that in my book? first, congratulations on the show. the age of gura, honored to be with you. >> i'll raise a doughnut to you, sir. >> thank you. we don't have any here in d.c. >> and those slavish to history. barack obama talked about it a lot and what he learned from it. i don't know where president trump got what he said last night. talk about the importance of this for presidents over the years. something you detail in your book. >> crucial. make as great leader. president truman said not every leader will be a great leader but every leader has to know history. if you're president, you don't have a user's manual. all you know is what earlier presidents did and where they succeeded, and where they failed. i don't see how you can be president without having a firm grasp on what went before

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my our guest and good friend michael beschloss. have we ever seen anything to any time in presidential history? >> nothing even close. we have seen so many things that do not connect to the earlier history. the number of people there that didn't want him there because they felt he roboted to this and they did not get it. >> i have been struggling of thinking of stories to tell in the role of american life. the hurricane and the flooding. lyndon johnson and the flashlight. very good thing to go to the scenes of hurricanes. there was not power. there was light provided by flashlights. so the odd thing is that in modern times l.b.j. started the tradition that presidents go to the scene of a big accident. you remember 1963 a major disaster. hundreds of men were killed. very unlike the way that we see presidents doing it in the modern era. bill clinton. that was after the city bombing. >> you are chief of state as well as political leader. you try to heal, unite and inspire. those are things that are not in donald trump's tool box and i

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michael beschloss gives us his take. the president, chief executive, commander-in-chief.a lot of power. it's a power controlled by our constitution. a system of checks and balances, in his new book, presidential historian michael beschloss issues a warning, too many presidents have used war to expands their own power. yes, it could happen again, michael, good morning. >> good morning. >> before we get to this book, it's a labor of love. obviously, we have been through a historic supreme court confirmation battle. not totally unprecedented i guess if you think of the clarence thomas/anita hill. i think a lot of people think this time is the most contentious ever. i think it's a great time to get a good historian's.on that. >> the good news is it's not most contentious, 1859 slavery, 1940, the country was torn apart over the idea do you go to war with hitler or not. so compared to moments like this, what we see today is not quite as momentous. we'll get through it. >> you are a historian. of course, i think the lesson is always that what we see in the past could often be re

joining me now michael beschloss, presidential historian and author of nine books.hemoth book. i have it here with me. it's heavy, it's big because there's a lot to talk about. we're going to get to this one. the president has a close relationship with the saudis. he's admitted he's made millions and millions of dollars with selling them real estate. this situation how did it escalate so quickly? >> and as you know it was not on his first foreign trip but about three days soon after he became president. the real question from my point of view, alex is this a case where they might feel a bit more emboldened to do things with a president if he were more distant. we can don't know the entire depths of that relationship with yet. and the other thing you've got a president saying reporters are the enemies of the people. what kind of a message does that send to another country that wants to crack down on reporters or possibly even kill them in. >> yeah, sobering thought right there. the president has also said he did not want sanctions that could potentially kills arms de

joining me now, author of the new book "presidents of war," nbc news presidential historian michael beschloss. the story has me too upset. >> it took me a while too. >> at times of tragedy, people look to their leaders. we've looked at the president's reaction to the man sending the pipe bombs. to the attack in the synagogue. what is your take in all of this? >> most presidents in a moment of crisis like this, especially with such a huge emotional element, you know, most of us are hurting. they heal, they unite, they inspire. that's what presidents do. he's a one trick pony. his single political m.o. is try to divide and conquer, to pit groups against one another and benefit from it politically, even after a tragedy like what happened on saturday. what other president would have made the jokes, would have gone on with the political rally just a few hours after this happened? it gets to empathy. when lincoln was waging the civil war, you know, he said to a friend, can you imagine i, who cannot bear a chicken being slaughtered, i'm responsible for oceans of blood? he said, put it near my summer

presidential historian michael beschloss dug up some tape. of president lindsen johnson talking about protesters in the civil rights and aents war movement. check this out. >> they marched here and we arrested 600 of them and we gave 29 of them pretty tough times. we found most of them really were mentally diseases. we talk too much about civil liberties and constitutional rights of the individuals and not about the masses. and they're working in my party from within. >> the only thing i didn't hear there, alice, was left-wing mob. >> yeah. look, certainly little different times but similar circumstances. and, look, i know that we don't like for people to say the mob mentality, which has happened. but like i said, when you combine chasing u.s. senators and press secretaries out of restaurants from their private time, banging on supreme court doors and chasing senators in elevators while they're doing their job, it is a mob-like mentality, like it or not. and it's completely different than tea parties who are at their rallies, at a protest, an

now michael beschloss, uber historian, is talking about a case in history where there was all but ready to be an indictment of a president. how do you settle that? >> that is not a settled question there. were people on both sides of the watergate scandal. there were people high up in the troubles of bill clinton in 1998. that could go either way. but one thing -- >> so your nuance there is the fact that jaworski thought he had that power does not create a question whether or not he had it? >> it was his preference. the key it thing here is we have a new justice on the supreme court, brett kavanaugh. and of all the people donald trump could have chosen from that federalist society list, this is the guy with the most extreme views against subpoenaing a sitting president, indicting a sitting president, investigating a sitting president, questioning pardons. i don't think that's by accident. but another difference from 1974 is that you've got a supreme court that is much less likely to rule against the sitting president. >> i could take your class on this all day. it's fascinating. i'm so

michael beschloss is here to help us sift through the week that was.e just released a new book that is amazing and remarkable. i'll admit i haven't finished it. it's called "presidents of war." you're here to do what rachel does for me every night. you're the tower. talk in this landing. what happens next? >> oh, what happens next is, i think we're looking back at this week historically. i think there's a possibility that what will loom above everything else is this seeming atrocity that happened in that saudi embassy in turkey. you know, for the first year and a half, there's been the shadow over donald trump and his administration about whatever relationship he's had with the russians which we should know even more soon as mueller begins to speak, presumably after the elections. there's a possibility that there will be similar scrutiny now to the relationship between donald trump and the saudis. and you have to assume that if the democrats are elected next month, at least in the house, and have powers of subpoena and investigation, they may begin to

michael beschloss raised the concern, this abby justice who is very much indebted to the president ofates. something the founder did not want. he can trial terrify take that off his name by trying not to have his decisions be overly partisan, by not trying to always be on the side of these 5-4 decisions. he could do weather john roberts did with the obamacare decision and put a little bit of distance or he could come in and get revenge and say all my ennys burn now that i'm a justice. which way do you think he'll go? >> so i'm of the perhaps rare belief that most justices in most cases aren't actually they'll strategic and they look at cases and they you know, influence by whatever factors influence them try to vote and write according to what in their light is the right reading of the law. so i think these things largely operate subconsciously. if you look at kavanaugh's history as a judge, i think it is fair tore describe him as you know, leave aside his performance last week, which is something. >> which is hard to do. >> i'm talking about his 12 years as a judge, as a very careful

i'm joined by tonight's panel, michael beschloss, the presidential historian and author of the new book "presidents of war." ruth marcus, deputy editorial page editor at the post. and a senior fellow at international institute and columnist with bloomberg. all of us are in the style of we have all been pretty critical of this style of politics. nobody embraces it, i think, at this table. but for the life of me, i just -- it is just sometimes you're just shocked when, you know, one side projects this and you're, like, what world are we living in? >> you live long enough, you get to see everything. reminds me of another midterm, even that was the midterm of 1970 when richard nixon was trying to lead the republicans and the way he did it was the last couple of weeks about this point in the campaign, there was a rally of nixons in san jose and rock throwers. and nixon taunted the rock throwers. he stood up on the hood of his car and went like this as the rocks were throwing and people were screaming. and he felt that that was such an effective display of how the republicans would defend the

sense of how these mid—terms compare to others in history, we're joined now from new york is michael beschlossth us. before we talk about the book, let's talk about the point we made about the midterms. can you remember back in recent history when the midterms have excited not just in recent history when the midterms have excited notjust the american public but the public around the world ? public but the public around the world? certainly not since 1945. the reason is that if donald trump is confirmed next week in the midterms and continues to own both houses of congress, you will see a president who is riding for power in the way we may never have seen who is riding for power in the way we may never have seen before in the us also you saw what he has said about trying to change the 14th amendment by executive order. that may be the president who figures he now has a long—standing majority on the supreme court, conservative majority with his new appointment of brett kava naugh majority with his new appointment of brett kavanaugh and he might start to test authors of things that test our legal

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michael beschloss, what are you looking for?o the boarder in something that seems designed to help him win the election one week later. an october surprise like this is not what a president should be doing. our armed forces are not there to help him politically. i hoepe we don't see such an abuse of presidential power. >> on that front after this announcement, of this likely executive order that will do things like stop asylum seekers who legally would be able to ask the government for reprieve. i'm watching to see how haus races, people in close house races reagts to this. this takes the conversation away from health care and forces them to have to react to this. >> sam? >> two things, one specific, will george soros be pulled from any of these ads on loop as a villain. because obviously we have this new context, secondarily on a very much more important note whether my red sox will clinch it could be tonight. >> sam has been talking about it. >> i'm watching the mid terms this week, headed out to the heartland, iowa, wisconsin