in the background. >> just bring the fire. >> we can do something about that. >> exactly. >> michael beschloss, this moment that we are currently living through, how will history view this moment? put it in context. you have turmoil. you have what one could call an unprecedented situation happening within the republican party apparatus. the polling numbers, it is what it is. you have the court cases, all of this rolling into a consequential week on top of the state of the union address. >> this is the year, i can say it very simply, symone, when america either became a dictatorship or will remain a democracy. that question will be known within what, eight months, november? this week will have a lot to do with it. you have president biden giving a state of the union which is probably going to be one of his biggest audiences this year and his best chance to tell people what he wants to do, the same way that bill clinton in 1996 said the era of big government is over, causing a lot of people to look at him other than something that was liberal and had lost the 1994 congressional elections. >> one

not sure trump and the republicans understand that rule. >> nbc news presidential historian michael beschloss. michael, thank you for talking to me about this tonight. i knew that i wanted to look into the history of this. and of course i had never known about that. that was fantastic. thank you, great to see you. >> thank you. we feel the same way. be well as always. >> be well. thank you. stay with us. stay with us (psst! psst!) ahhh! with flonase, allergies don't have to be scary. spray flonase sensimist daily for non-drowsy long lasting relief in a scent free, gentle mist. flonase all good. also, try our allergy headache and nighttime pills. >>> i'd like to show you something next that comes from kansas. this was johnson county, kansas friday night at a fundraiser for the kansas republican party. what you see here is an effigy of president biden and attendees at the kansas republican party fundraiser are kicking the effigy of president biden, or trying to kick it without falling down. and then finally you see this woman beating it on the head and the face with a styrofoam club. which is w

and michael beschloss. thank you both for being here. there's a combination of it being frightening and just deeply unserious. last night, i thought that republicans put on a show that would have been embarrassing if middle schoolers did it. it wasn't dignified. it wasn't adult. it was silly. at the same time, it did also show that they truly have drunk the authoritarian kool-aid. they're all autocrat enablers and sycophants and they wanted it to be displayed. your thoughts. >> the word you left out is opportunists. many are doing this because they like being in congress. i mean, look, george santos showed up. you know, once they have been in the chamber, they don't want to go home. and if, you know, wearing silly t-shirts and funky bow ties and flouting the house rules by wearing hats is what keeps you living in washington, that's what they're going to do. but it is a weird double-edged sword on the one hand, you say this is just a clown show. on the other hand, there are clowns with flame throwers are not funny. and so, you know, it's

not sure trump and the republicans understand that rule. >> nbc news presidential historian michael beschloss thank you for talking to me about this tonight. i knew that i wanted to look into the history of this. and of course i had never known about that. that was fantastic. thank you, great to see you. >> thank you. we feel the same way. be well as always. >> be well. thank you. we'll be right back. stay with us. h us it's fineeeeeeee! [splash] before advil: advil dual action fights pain two ways. advil targets pain at the source, acetaminophen blocks pain signals. advil dual action. vicks vapopatch. easy to wear with soothing vicks vapors for her, for you, for the whole family. trusted soothing vapors, from vicks love you. have a good day, behave yourself. like she goes to work at three in the afternoon and sometimes gets off at midnight. she works a lot, a whole lot. we don't get to eat in the early morning. we just wait till we get to the school. so, yeah. right now here in america, millions of kids like victoria and andre live with hunger, and the need to help them has never been greate

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michael beschloss is an nbc news presidential historian.rett, this is happeningless than 24 hours after trump labeled president biden a threat to democracy. now he's meeting with someone who much of the world believes is a threat to democracy. what can you tell us about this meeting? >> the timing may be coincidental, but the bromance as you described it is not. trump has long admired viktor orban for the way he operates in his country. orban is sort of a celebrity figure on the far right, the most popular european leader on the far right in this country. he's skeptical of multilateral institutions. he's critical of the eu of which hungary is a member, he's critical of nato of which hungary is a member. trump looks at orban and sees some of the authoritarian governing style he would like to have if he could do it in the american system. don't take my word for it. here's how trump has talked about orban in the past. >> a great leader in europe, viktor orban, he's the prime minister of hungary, he's a very great leader. very strong man. some

and nbc news presidential historian michael beschloss, thank you for coming on this morning.>> friday's vote to keep the government funded sparked a new effort by republicans to strip congressman mike johnson of the speakership. we'll talk about the latest dysfunction among the house gop. >>> plus, an appeals court is set to rule on a controversial, new immigration law in texas that gives local police powers previously reserved for federal officials. we'll talk to nbc news homeland security correspondent julia ainsley about that. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. choosing a treatment for your chronic migraine - 15 or more headache days a month, each lasting 4 hours or more - can be overwhelming. so, ask your doctor about botox®. botox® prevents headaches in adults with chronic migraine before they even start. it's the #1 prescribed branded chronic migraine treatment. so far, more than 5 million botox® treatments have been given to over eight hundred and fifty thousand chronic migraine patients. effects of botox® may spread hours to weeks after injection caus

historian michael beschloss, we appreciate you being with us this morning. >> thank you,thank you for gett "way too early" on this friday and all week long. "morning joe" begins now. >>> when you're my age, certain things are clearer than ever. i know the american story. again and again, i've seen the contests between competing forces and the battle for the soul of our nation. between those who want to pull america back to the past and those who want to move america into the future. my lifetime has taught me to embrace freedom and democracy, a future based on core values that have defined america. honesty, decency, dignity, equality, to respect everyone, to give everyone a fair shot, to give hate no safe harbor. other people my age see it differently. the american story of resentment, revenge, and retribution, that's not me. in my career, i've been told i was too young. by the way, they didn't let me on the senate elevators for votes sometimes. not a joke. i've been told i am too old. whether young or old, i've always been known -- i've always known what endures. i've known our north

author and nbc news presidential historian michael beschloss, we appreciate you being with us this morning,thank you for gett "way too early" on this friday and all week long. "morning joe" begins now. >>> when you're my age, certain things are clearer than ever. i know the american story. again and again, i've seen the contests between competing forces and the battle for the soul of our nation. between those who want to pull america back to the past and those who want to move america into the future. my lifetime has taught me to embrace freedom and democracy, a future based on core values that have defined america. honesty, decency, dignity, equality, to respect everyone, to give everyone a fair shot, to give hate no safe harbor. other people my age see it differently. the american story of

michael beschloss, nbc news presidential historian. jamelle bouie, "new york times" opinion columnist and cohost of the unclear and present danger podcast, and ben rhodes, former deputy national security adviser, msnbc political contributor and cohost of the pod save the world podcast. thank you all for being here. nomally, there have so many different ways i would go at this. historian first, ladies first, jamelle bouie is our newest friend of the show, but i'm going to switch it up and go to you, ben, because that news kind of dropped like an anvil on us on our presidential show meeting today, that donald trump will actually get these national security briefings. how does that read to you? can i hope and dream that maybe this is just a way to catch him sharing those national security briefings? maybe they'll give him wrong information and see if he sends it to putin so they can catch him. what is happening? >> well, i think, joy, you spoke to the awkwardness of this. joe biden a president who follows norms. but that's difficult when

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joining us now michael beschloss and washington bureau chief susan page.sident biden needs to do starting with not just be older but be wiser. tell us more. >> well, he obviously -- you can't argue what your age is, that is indisputable, but you can make the case you're up to the job, that you've got bigger that you can handle four more years in office. this is biden's big opportunity to do that. we don't have many bully pulpits left. the state of the union address is one of them, andrea. >> and michael, take a big picture, zoom out for us on what's at stake for him tonight. you point to fdr's freedom speech in 1941, obviously more time, a bigger challenge, but let's, you know, talk about the challenges tonight. >> well, this is a real historical moment. we could be a dictatorship next year if donald trump is elected and carries through on his threats and carries through on his threats to suspend the constitution. that's what's at stake. so joe biden could finesse it and talk about other things or he could confront the elephant in the room and say this is

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michael beschloss can't either. he's a lot smarter than me, although we both went to williams.aren't numbed to the stakes every day until we get to election day in november? >> i don't want to act like this is a simple thing, but this is a relatively simple thing. use donald trump's own words. when you're giving speeches out on the campaign trail, whether it's president biden, vice president harris, use his own words, reiterate his own words. he's delivering exactly what he's going to do if reelected. he's going to govern like an authoritarian leader. he admires dictators. he's made it clear there will be a bloodbath should he not be reelected. take him at his word and literally say repeat, repeat, repeat on the campaign trail, repeat his own words so the american people can understand what donald trump said he's going to do. sometimes what he says lives in a silo, because his rallies are not always covered live. oftentimes he's covered more in the right-wing media and not necessarily the mainstream media. make it clear to the american people every person know what he is saying