this type of information has been handled and that's a real core part of the problem all right michael brooks producer of the majority report and jesselyn radack the national security and human rights director at the government accountability project thank you both for joining us thank you while lawmakers and the american public debate over privacy versus national security back here at home the one question just about everyone wants answered is where in the world is edward snowden in newspapers are plastered headlines like deep throat hides in h.k. and the world's most wanted man breaks cover in hong kong some are even going so far as to compare snowden's actions with those of private first class bradley manning the man behind the biggest document in american history r.t. correspondent margaret howell takes a critical look at these comparisons to see if they hold water. and if the whistleblower edward snowden and wiki leaks source bradley manning both release classified information exposing the us government secrets but did they do the same thing will and comparing whistleblowers private brad

has issued a complaint about the spying to break it all down with me i was joined earlier by michael brooks he's a producer for the majority report as well as jesselyn radack she's the national security and human rights director at the government accountability project here in d.c. and i started off by asking michael if we can expect to see more of this international fallout relating to the story in the coming weeks. i think you'll see it in two ways we're going to continue to see i think this kind of pushback from europe on the sort of civil liberties and monitoring questions although again. it will be interesting to see the level because we already know that the u.k. government as an example is pretty complicit in this program in some respects so let's kind of see what's this closed about maybe the level of information that european nations have had about these programs to begin with but i think you'll still see some pushback from them in that regard and then i think and other states that probably have some questionable records in these areas as well like china probably some pushback and

as michael hanlon said, from the brookings institute, two and aev half yearse have proven this war isowhere. bu we are winning as far asrmy military militarily. but the attrition continues. it is only how many months or years what will finally fall.rif if we want to have them be history and help them move towards this, we can see if that will defeat al qaeda. if we want to plweay a role ande not, we have to be on the right rode of history.nowi t melissa: on the right side ofg s history, some argue that it's too late for that. but early on, we have been again fighting against hezbollah and bashar al-assad. when we saw pictures of children being slaughtered, that was the time to get involved. at, d, this point, al qaeda and extremist have gotten involved. and now it has become al qaeda versus hezbollah. neither of those folks are our friends and we should just stay out of it, that is one of the theories that is out there. >> well, that characterizes the opposition about qaeda. just noc the syrian population has become more radicalized and they are becoming more chaotic and committingth

syndicated columnist mark shields and "washington post" columnist michael gerson. david brooksis off today. welcome to you. i don't know if we can go behind the scenes of the supreme court but let's start there, mark. this momentous week, three major issues in american life really looked at by the court. was there a theme? what jumps out at you generally? >> i think the theme -- if one thinks about american presidential elections in the last generation there have been villains to the conservative side have been liberal do-gooders, child pornographers and activist judges. >> brown: just to pick three category, right? >> i don't think there's any question that activist judges emerged this week. liberals seemed to be pleased that the activist judges repealed an act of congress, doma, which, you know, basically repealed it, i mean, we can go into the legally niceties, marcia understands them a lot better than i, obviously. but at the same time conservatives were delighted that it limited the voting rights act. a lot of conservatives were. so you had to be in an activist court. i do

and michael o'hanlon, senior fellow at the brookings institution. the latest revelation courtesy of the "washington post" involves an nsa program known as prism. e-mails. americans were not directly targeted, the "post" reported, but while going after foreign targets the program did route teen routinely collect a great deal of american content as well. the revelation about this new program comes a day after "the guardian" broke the news the nsa was collecting telephone information on domestic and international calls. today the president addressed criticism about these programs. he said that he came into office with a healthy skepticism about them, but after evaluating their effectiveness, he was convinced they were necessary. >> my assessment, and my team's assessment, was that they help us prevent terrorist attacks. and the modest encroachments on privacy that are involved in getting phone numbers or duration without a name attached and not looking at content, that on, you know, net it was worth us doing. some other folks may have a different asses

. >> and yet, sir, we had michael o'hanlon from the brookings institution on friday on this broadcastand he said that to do this right is going to require far more aid than the president has thus far signaled. take a listen to michael oh han lynn. >> put american boots on the ground as part of a multilateral implementation force, not an invasion force, like we had in bosnia, but in this case it would be more dangerous and difficult. i acknowledge that up front. we need to have other countries to be willing to do it. >> isn't that the challenge, sir? it's all very well saying a red line has been crossed. we're going to send arms to the rebels. but as michael o'hanlon says, this is a much more challenging set of circumstances and will require far more than just weapons in the hands of rebels? >> well, that's exactly right. what mr. o'hanlon was renting was not so much an idea as it was a fantasy. there's no chance that the congress would vote to send american soldiers over there and make that kind of financial commitment so he can have a theoretical situation about what it would, quote,

michael o'hanlon at the brookings institution and the author of "healing wounded giant," and joan walsh editor-at-large at salon.com whose new book is titled? what's the matter with white people?" ? >> michael, there you have it. the administration is convinced that the assad regime has used chemical weapons. i have to ask you, was it the 100 to 150 deaths from chemical weapons that an compelled the white house or was it the united nations finding that 93,000 syrians have been killed and assad's forces are basically gaining the upper hand? >> hi, martin. strategically i think you're right to suggest it's maybe the latter considerations just as much. in fact, maybe they should be seen as more important. i do think the chemical weapons issue puts added pressure on the president and obviously, it puts had his own credibility on the line. i don't believe we should go to war on presidential credibility as a rule. it adds up to what appears to have been a compelling case for this white house. we'll see how far that goes and you've raised all the right issues as did senator mccain and others w

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and michael o'hanlon, senior fellow at the brookings institution. the latest revelation courtesy of the "washington post" involves an nsa program known as prism. e-mails. americans were not directly targeted, the "post" reported, but while going after foreign targets the program did route teen routinely collect a great deal of american content as well. the revelation about this new program comes a day after "the guardian" broke the news the nsa was collecting telephone information on domestic and international calls. today the president addressed criticism about these programs. he said that he came into office with a healthy skepticism about them, but after evaluating their effectiveness, he was convinced they were necessary. >> my assessment, and my team's assessment, was that they help us prevent terrorist attacks. and the modest encroachments on privacy that are involved in getting phone numbers or duration without a name attached and not looking at content, that on, you know, net it was worth us doing. some other folks may have a different asses

hand land's been to afghanistan ten times over the years, he's a senior fellow at the brookings institution. michael great to have you back with us. >> thank you, jenna. jenna: what's the significance of all of this? >> well, let's start with the peace talks with the taliban first. i was also in doha last week, and so was president karzai -- jenna: were you there together? because our viewers might want to know. [laughter] >> no. although brookings did -- my colleagues held a conference, u.s. relations with the islamic world, and president karzai spoke with that, so that was part of why he was there, but he was there to speak with the emir of qatar, and i have to assume one of their subjects was this taliban office. however, i would say let's not get hopes up on that because you referred correctly to the fact that we expect most nato troops to leave by the end of next year, a lot of the taliban really think their going to win -- they're going to win the war at that point. despite all these milestones -- which i think are quite significant, and by the way, i think the taliban's wrong in its assessmen

brooke baldwin. the news is now. the feds say this actress sent ricin laced letters to the president and michael bloomberg. then tried framing her husband. well, that husband is about to tell me his side of the story. >>> a debt collector for drug cartels says he's killed 30 people across america. we're on the case. >>> plus -- >> these disclosures have caused significant harm to our nation and to our safety. >> the man who leaked nsa secrets is still on the run. but the fbi suggests, not for long. >>> and one of america's most famous directors predicts an implosion of the movie industry. and it would forever change how you go to the movies. >>> good to see you. i'm brooke baldwin. thanks so much for being with me. i want to begin with the thousands of families right now wondering whether their homes are still standing. folks in colorado, very much so on edge as nightmare wildfires burn out of control. at least 360 homes have been destroyed. 13,000 people evacuated. a result of the biggest fire, this is how they're describing it, the worst in colorado state's history. cnn's victor blackwell is live for us

brooke baldwin. the news is now. the feds say this actress sent ricin laced letters to the president and michael bloomberg.sband is about to tell me his side of the story. >>> a debt collector for drug cartels says he's killed 30 people across america. we're on the case. >>> plus -- >> these disclosures have caused significant harm to our nation and to our safety. >> the man who leaked nsa secrets is still on the run. but the fbi suggests, not for long. >>> and one of america's most famous directors predicts an pl

brooks, who conducted that interview. here in our studio is the health editor for thegrio.com. the actor's spokesman now backtracking. what did michael, and what did you believe he was trying to inf infer? >> i believe that he was discussing specifically his own particular cancer. i asked him a question whether he felt his lifestyle had contributed to it specifically, his drinking and his smoking. he said no, because this particular cancer is caused by the hpv virus, which comes about via oral sex. so he may have been talking generally as well, but i think in that moment, to me, he was talking very specifically about his belief in what caused his particular cancer. >> are you surprised by the debate that this has touched off with that story? >> yes. that's a fair point. i'm incredibly surprised at the level of attention. when he said it, i thought this is a fascinating sideline. this is a fascinating way to shine a light on this illness. i thought that it would have some kind of traction within news organizations because of that. the level of it does surprise me. but i'm not sure it actually -- maybe it doesn't surprise michamik mich

brooke. >>> also today marks four years to the day since the death of michael jacksoning and it could alsoay that his oldest son testified in his family's wrongful death lawsuit. what prince jackson could reveal next. ♪ ♪ chances are, you're not made of money, so don't overpay for boat insurance. geico, see how much you could save. >>> the world lost a huge talent exactly four years ago today. >> today at home on the west side of l.a. something happened. michael jackson's heart stopped, he stopped breathing. medics were called, efforts were made but despite those effort, jackson died. >> at the time jackson was preparing for a very ambitious concert run. now his family is suing the concert promoter for wrongful death. the court has already heard from jackson's 15-year-old daughter, paris. now it is the turn of her older brother, 16-year-old prince jackson. do we know when prince jackson might be testifying? >> i expected tomorrow morning, first thing in court, perhaps about 9:30 or 10:00, here in los angeles. prince jackson will walk up, take the oath, begin testifying, answering questions

heather higgins and peter brooks, former deputy assista assistantant and now a member of the heritage foundation. heather in, terms of national security requests, what michaelen told us yesterday, former nsa head, they had 300 last year, 300. part of kagill iion collections >> what snowden first did when he spoke about this, made it sound like they were listening in on phone calls, they weren't. they were looking at meta data, the same data deciding and sorting out what ads you're going to receive. all of the aspects of this have that have been legal and publicly discussed for years that have survived aclu challenges in courts, et cetera. >> right. >> and contrasting the decision, for example, of cambridge not to turn on the surveillance cameras and so not look at the bits of data that really are public information. people forget that this information, this is not a private phone call that they are having in terms of the fact of they are having it. >> they don't even -- the nsa part doesn't even go after cell towers. >> no. >> that's a local law enforcement. they could if they wanted to, but they don't. now, are you going to defend snowden? where do you com

michael: i'm surprised we didn't see you with a t-shirt. brett, thanks for making us laugh all week long. we'll be losing four of our best colleagues and producers, joanne will be leaving, brookand laurel will be moving on to other assignments within the network. they will be missed wherever they're going will be richer for their presence. have a great week. thank you for joining us in "the war room." "the young turks" are next. [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> welcome to the turks. cenk is off and i'm mark thompson. what a day we have. the full range--the full breadth of news today. we'll talk about the nsa, a smear campaign, and all sorts of things in politics, but we begin with the police blotter. before i get into this murder investigation which itself is taking on these bizarre twists i'll introduce our panel. hermela aregawi is here, and our legal expert, as you might expect, to weigh in on a murder investigation,