michael burlingame, let me begin with you. tell our friends why you argue in your new book that lincoln it was the black man's president. you have several speeches of frederick douglass but you can give including an 1865 eulogy on lincoln, where he said -- the people in class and people the country have nobody reason to mourn the death of lincoln and then the color people. what's the significance of that speech and why do you think that lincoln was the black man's president? >> thanks as much for your contradiction. thank you for inviting. the appeal a bit of a place because my book is focused, a central theme of my book, is let's not focus on lincoln's speeches and writings and policies and the like. let's focus on lincoln's internet interactions with black people, both in springfield and washington. but this comes from a eulogy that frederick douglass delivered on june 1st 1865 and cooper union. the premier said in the country to give a major speech. and it was covered widely in the new york press. but it has pan unaccountab

michael burlingame let us begin with you. tell our friends why you argue in your new book that lincoln was the black man's president. you have several speeches of frederick douglass that you begin with, including in 1865, the eulogy on lincoln. he said no class of people has a better reason implementing the death of lincoln then have the colored people. what is the significance of that speech? why do you hold that lincoln was the black man's president? >> thank you very much for your kind introduction. thank you very much for inviting me. i feel a little out of place because the central theme of my book is, let's not focus on lincoln's speeches, writings and the like, let's focus on lincoln's interactions with black people both in lincoln and washington. the title of the book comes from a eulogy from frederick douglass from june 1st in 1865 from cooper's union. the premier cited the country to give a major speech. it was covered widely in the new york press. it has been on accountability ignored by historians in anthologies o

welcome, michael burlingame, and diana schaub. and michael, tell our friends were you argued in the new book why lincoln was the black man's president and you have several speeches of frederick douglas that you begin with, including a eulogy on lincoln where he said people in the country have a better reason for lamenting the death. what's the significance of that speech and why do you feel that lincoln was the black man's president? >> thank you very much for your kind introduction and inviting me, i feel a little out of place my book, the central theme of my book is let's not focus on lincoln's speeches and the like, but lincoln's interactions in washington. and it comes from the eulogy that was delivered 1865 in the premier site to give a major speech. it was covered widely in the new york press, but unaccountable ignored by historians and andthologists. and he invited frederick douglas to the white house to consult on public affairs and lincoln was saying i'm a president of the black people as well as the white and honor them

speech and song and her new book is his greatest speeches how lincoln moved the nation welcome michael burlingame noah feldman and diana schaub. michael berlin. let us begin with you. tell our friends why you argue in your new book that lincoln was the black man's president and you have you have several speeches of frederick douglass that you begin with including in 1865 eulogy on lincoln where he said no people at class of people in the country have a better. reason for lamenting the death of lincoln then have the colored people. what is the significance of that? speech? and why do you believe that lincoln was the black man's president? well, thank you very much for your kind introduction and thank you for inviting me. i feel a little out of place because my book is focused the central theme i'm book is let's not focus on lincoln speeches and writings and policies in the light. let's focus on lincoln's interaction with black people both in springfield and in washington, but the title of the book comes from a eulogy that frederick douglass delivered on june 1st 1865 in cooper union the premiere s

to michael burlingame, whom i've only just met, i not know him during the writing of this book, but he he has his magnificent two volume biography, which he online for free. many of you, i'm sure know that. but he he put an even larger version of that two volume biography online for free with the footnotes. that was a real gift to the lincoln. i've enjoyed all of. harold holt shares many on different aspects of lincoln, especially his the way he was depicted in the press in older books. i always i still carl sandburg not exactly current, but i find him always readable and very moving. and it's seems to me that the that sandburg was writing in the world war two era is not irrelevant because america was in trouble and lincoln is a good president. when we we are in trouble. i ed histories are no more than 100 years old. but she's fascinating. she's fascinating as an early female biographer of lincoln and as a very dogged, you know, and invested native reporter, interviewed a lot people who knew lincoln. she actually was an investigative reporter who often exposed de rockefeller in standar