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c-span.org/podcast or whatever you get your podcast. wall street journal senior white house reporter michael bender provided behind-the-scenes look into president here is a portion of that conversation but. >> there's no shortage of trunk books. last 30 or 40 years, details by the oval office, under the hood of the campaign exclusive memos another piece of this, who is two years for people who go to 30, 40, 50 by the end of 2060. what i wanted to do here was understand a little bit more about this movement. what about them as people as men and women had been coming back again and again. effectively to see the same show. and what told us about trump he could elicit this kind of energy. what i found was, i was very, very lucky that these folks trusted me too tell their story and to that i will forever be grateful. i think it really enriched my reporting and understanding of this movement in our country right now. these are folks who had a lot of time on their hands. they are recently retired or almost retired. they may be never had kids or were estranged from their families. they were drawn to his energy, this celebrity in the same way many peopl