joining me now, alice stewart, bakari sellers, michael caputo and maria cardona. michael, i want to start with you. only sort of half in jest. i'm not even sure if it's half in jest. you were close to this white house. there are a lot of jobs that seem to be open. any that interest you? >> you know, nobody's calling. i'm not waiting by my phone. as someone who's in these russia hearings, i doubt i'll ever be offered a job in this white house, but i would work there, and i know a lot of people that would work there. especially in the economic adviser job. i think we've heard about larry kudlow. we've heard about the elevation of others in this white house of others into that position. i think the national economic adviser is one there are a lot of people lining up for. >> what about this dichotomy? gary cohn had written a resignation letter, was talking about leaving after charlottesville, after the president said there were good people on both sides of that debate, and one of the sides was neo-nazis and white supremacists. that didn't get gary cohn to quit, but tar

michael caputo, what do you make of it? >> we've been hearing about h.r.r's days being numbered for quite some time. it must have been a really high number when they first started calling it out. you know, h.r. mcmaster came in after, you know, kind of a real kind of a debacle with general flynn and i think he gave the white house some stability. and i think, you know, also you have to understand that, you know, h.r. mcmaster is a military general, and donald trump responds well to the military. responds well to the generals who are in the white house. and h.r. mcmaster has done a very good job. i think, you know, maybe we just skip the four-star, go right to the five-star for general mcmaster. i love some of the names they're discussing about replacing him and looking forward to the president having the cabinet that he deserves. >> paul begala, i think we have your mike back. how do you see this? >> a five-star would be remarkable. haven't had one since omar bradley and dwight eisenhower. might be a little much to get a fifth star. i start from the premis

we have former trump campaign senior adviser michael caputo. >> good morning, chris. >> so i don't thinkrguing about whether or not there's too much turnover and chaos. it's going on. what does it mean for stewardship and following through for the american people. what is your concern about this? >> i'm truly not that concerned. we have the first businessman elected president of the united states. didn't come with a deep bench of political hangers looking for jobs. up until the campaign, people didn't think he was ever going to win. he couldn't charge his chief of staff of people who aren't supporting him all that much. they were putting in people who didn't support him all that much. i don't expect he would have that many people lined up for jobs. second of all, a lot of people weren't really trump people. >> 43% turnover in 14 months. when you compare it to 12 months, because we don't have a metric for 14 months. but the rate is not even close. it's not just the number. it is is the quality. that becomes the concern. why is it so hard for them to put out policies? how hard it is to lia

joining us is michael caputo. thank you for joining us this morning. >> do you share of words of lindsey graham who said this? >> the only reason mr. mueller could ever be dismissed is for cause. i see no cause when it comes to mr. mueller. he needs to be able to do his job. pledged to the american people as a republican to make sure mr. mueller can continue to do his job without any interference. >> are you worried that the president is preparing to fire robert mueller? it looks though from his tweets. >> as i said, if he does, it will be beginning of the end of his presidency. >> do you agree? >> yes, you do. i don't think the president is really considering firing mr. mueller. this is the president trying to defiend the terms of the conversation surrounding this investigation and if you think about it, it's also the president trying to devise the parameters of the interview that the director seems to be looking for. >> do you think the president is going to sit down with bob mueller? >> i wouldn't advise it. i

. >> michael caputo who worked on the campaign for the convention and during the convention says theak meeting was not a thing, it was just a side meeting. it wasn't preplanned, they weren't talking about anything specific, it was part of a number of other ambassadors that were at the convention. that it's not unusual. he would also say the idea of arming somebody, the u.s. arming somebody to fight against russia would have been a very big deal, and that's why they reversed that part of the platform. does that arrangement hold water in this case? >> two things. the point about the meeting between sessions and kislyak i think is well taken. it appears it was a fairly casual conversation the two of them had at them challenge was when sessions was being interviewed and he failed to talk about that. makes sense. the issue of arming ukraine against russia, though, the reason that's significant is twofold. the moment it happened, there was increased attention being paid to trump's relationship with russia and vladimir putin, and the person who had been talked about as being involved in mak

joining us is jackie cue sinnish, michael caputo, jennifer granholm, and paul begala. day, you were very -- i don't know if upset is the right word but concerned about the leak of what was on the president's briefing sheet. obviously the white house is concerned about that. does that concern you more than the tone the president took of vladimir putin, or does that tone not concern you at all? >> the tone he took doesn't concern me. full disclosure, i had russian dressing at lunch. >> at the sushi place? >> but i really am concerned about the leaks because this is a criminal activity, and i'm actually very disappointed today to know that nobody did anything about it. maybe they are, but i think somebody should have been marched out of the white house today because a very small number of people that had access to those cards and had knowledge of what was on them, and it should be fairly easy to figure out who those people are. i think somebody needs to be marched out in cuffs. >> governor granholm, is this a story about leaks or a story about why is the president not toug

want to bring in our panel, gloria borger, ryan lizza, michael caputo, asha rangappa. gloria, does it seem to you that we're entering sort of a new phase, particularly with the president's tweets, the new lawyer? >> oh, it does. this is the donald trump phase of the donald trump defense. this is being run by the president. he's the one who wanted joe dedigenova. i think this was not welcomed warmly by john dowd, who is leading the interactions with -- >> the president said last week it was fake news the idea he was going to bring on another lawyer. >> i think this affects the president's feeling that the strategy, which was the dowd strategy and the ty cobb strategy, which was kind of, mr. president, hold on here. mind your matters. don't tweet about mueller. this is going to be over. just hold on. and suddenly the president looks at the subpoena for the trump organization. he looks at these questions that pamela and i are reporting, and he says, whoa. you guys are wrong, and i need to start pushing back and discrediting mueller right now. >> michael, if the president'

with me tonight, ab stoddard, michael caputo, robby mook, jeffr jeffrey toobin. >> ab, the president feels vindicated by this republican report and the shutting down of the question. should he? >> well, he wants anyone to say that was investigating this that there was no collusion and he's wrong to say the committee concluded it. it's the committee's republican membership. but, yes, this is a great stamp of approval for him to say that a committee has shut down a probe, concluding that there's no collusion. what happened is incredibly disappointing that you have the majority party. not only did they not interview key witnesses. they interviewed several key witnesses who didn't tell them answers to their questions. they're actually saying that the cia got it wrong. they are defying -- >> i talked to a congressman would who said, look, i read the intelligence. i just think the cia read it wrong. >> it's pretty amazing, but what they did not do is even attempt to show the american people that they were trying to work in a bipartisan fashion. they shut it down without the democrats' know

joining us, republican strategist amanda carpenter as well as paul callan, jackie kucinich, michael caputo, jennifer granholm, steve cortes, and paul begala. amanda carpenter, first of all, there's obviously legal, political implications perhaps for the president in this. just in terms of whether it's stormy daniels or mcdougal or zervos, do you think this actually impacts the president with his base? >> well, not if people just follow the day-to-day fights and the dueling lawyers, which was fascinating television. but here is the thread that i think nobody is really zoning in on, especially the democrats, which could really make a compelling political argument. it's that there are two examples of the president's close allies in michael cohen and the "national enquirer" paying hush money to women to deprive voters of having significant information before the election. if any of that behavior continued after trump became president, you could be talking about abuse of power. but no one's really making that argument. right now michael cohen wants people to believe unbelievable things, that so

with me now, contributor to "new yorker" magazine michael spies, the author of the profile. politico mark caputovery gardner, copresident of the brady campaign to prevent gun violence. mark, starting with you. i have been reading your coverage of this closely. you have the lay of the land there. it was a real open question about whether this was going to happen or not, as my understanding was. what was determinative ultimately. >> crisis. most legislative bodies react to crisis. in the middle of the florida legislative session and you have 17 people who are killed in a mass shooting, 14 of them kids, it is almost impossible to ignore. still, i have been a reporter in florida for 20 years, and i grew up in the state. i have never seen them pass gun control. the idea that a florida legislature controlled by republicans and florida republican governor would sign any measure of gun control no matter how slight, is mind-blowing, yet it happened. >> michael, you talk about how marian hammer has been able to kind of keep a lock on that state and that is a model for other states. what methods has she us