joining us now is michael caputo, former aide to the trump presidential campaign. od morning, michael. >> good morning. how are you doing, allison. >> i'm doing well. so what do you say to americans who cannot unhear what they heard in helsinki last week where the president stood in ex to vladimir putin and seemed to side with president putin that president putin was very strong on his denial and that it was america who had been foolish and stupid? >> well, this is one of those rare occasions where i break with the president. in july of 2016, i called out russia for releasing those e-mails right before the democratic convention. i lived in russia for quite a while. i know how the russian government works. i got an idea as to how putin works. i think the president -- has a hard time with this, because so much of the opposition to the president says that, you know, they talk about the russian meddling in the election as if it has some indication that there was russian collusion on the trump campaign. >> yeah. >> the president doesn't like that. and he reacts that way.

. >> michael caputo. >> michael caputo. copy rights. i would grant him the copy right for the coffee boy. >> donald trump. >> the president. >> bob mueller. >> the special prosecutor, to me is the key of the -- >> the key. >> yeah, the one that will give us, all of us at some point a lecture of what happened. >> you think bob mueller will ultimately get the answers. >> i think so, yeah. >> simona mangiante, i know you've been through a difficult situation. i appreciate you coming. >> thank you very much. >>> ahead on the beat, an oligarch takes us into the putin mind-set. first, sheriff joe arpaio talks to me about getting that pardon from donald trump, the very first of the trump administration. and i asked him whether he understood he was admitting guilt. when we're back in 60 seconds. p to be a decent neighbor to remember the good people who rise with every challenge to remember their strength when you feel tired to serve with grit and grace you made a promise we did too the all-new ram 1500 the chili pepper sweat-out. not cool. free

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michael caputo. >> michael caputo. copyrights, i would grant him the copyright for the coffee boy. >> donald trump. >> the president. >> bob mueller. >> the special prosecutor to me is the key. >> the key? >> yeah, is the one that will give us, all of us at some point a lecture of what's happened. >> you think bob mueller will ultimately get the answers? >> i think so, yeah. >> simona, i know you have been through a difficult situation. >> very difficult. >> i appreciate you coming and taking the questions. >> thank you very much. >>> up ahead on "the beat," an oligarch jailed by vladimir putin actually takes us inside the kremlin mindset and talks about what putin would have known during the 2016 election hacking. but first, sheriff joe arpaio talks to me about getting that pardon from donald trump, the very first of the trump administration, and i asked him whether he understood he was admitting guilt. when we're back when 60 seconds. at&t provides edge-to-edge intelligence, covering virtually every part of your heal

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i agree with michael caputo, saying let's seize all of their assets. the reason i have a problem with it. once i look down at the roster. i would hire him, god forbid, if i needed him and he was in the private sector. but in my grand jury aaron was assisted with a janine rhee. she defended hillary clinton twice civilly. she could be conflicted civilly. there are too many things like that. because it's he would not have picked bob mueller. that's why i think that gives me pause. >> okay. because i want to get to something that i definitely want to get to. >> but it's subjective, alex. it's really subjective, with this team here and by who was interviewing him. >> wikileaks? >> yes. >> roger stone has tried to retract what you said with that meeting with assange. >> so what happened, i got to julian assange, to the best of my recollection. i immediately said does julian have any information on bengh i benghazi. they could have been sitting there. roger said no. he has information that linked him to the clinton investigation. you have to remember, i was s

. >> same question with regards to michael caputo? >> i was not there. >> have you asked these people? >> we have conveyed all the questions. i am optimistic. you can understand why it would be of tremendous importance to the country that if the department of justice has -- thented to a court fact that you cannot tell me definitively that before july 31, there was not intelligence collected on the trump campaign. that is something of great interest to us. >> there is nobody more committed to rooting out misconduct then i. we talked to the fbi. we take those allegations seriously. if we find credible evidence, we will produce it. >> let's get into your determination to find out that activity which is recurring. beat -- it hearing, i ask you when you first became aware that the wife of your attorney general was working for fusion gps and was actively assigned a dossier that said all these nasty things about president trump. do you know when you became first aware of that? would been sometime in the fall of 2017. i think i told you last