it's michael carvin. with jones day. >>> and that was michael carvin of the national federation of independent more people to come out to the microphones and, yes, we will bring those to you live. as you know, all ofllse of thes statements will be rebroadcast in prime time tonight. so you'll be able to watch it there. go to c-span.org to figure out what exact time. we're just waiting on the house to finish its business so we don't know exactly what time, but it will be tonight on primetime. now, when the audiotranscripts are released from the supreme court in about an hour or so, those will be brought to you live here on c-span3. or they'll be brought to you immediately on c-span3. so you'll be able to watch and listen. we will show justices who's talking. the plaintiffs, et james and charlotte, you have been very patient. i hope you're still there. >> caller: yes. >> go ahead, jame on the statement that last gich was making. i was wondering, god forbid he's flat on his back and can'tit to expects to take

thank you, all. >> it's michael carvin. he's from jones day. >> that short press conference took place about an hour ago. we are back live waiting on the release of the audio transcripts from today's individual mandate argument in the supreme court. as soon as that happens we will bring those to you right here on c-span3. robert in independence, missouri, we want to hear your views on all this going on. what do you think, robert? >> caller: i,

>> michael carvin. >> now the supreme court today heard arguments on what d ashe mandate. just so everyone is clear, i just want to read a passage from the summery of the senate's health care law that lays out the mandate. quote, requires each citizen or lawful permanent resident to be covered under a qualified health plan or equivalent health care program. in other words, each citizen is mandated to have health insurance. now, i just want to make one clarification. this is indeed from the senate health care law, but it's not from the affordable care act. it's an excerpt from the senate republican health care proposal from 1993. the concept of individual mandate was first floated by the conservative heritage foundation. it was taken up by conservative republicans as an alternative to the universal health bill proposed by president clinton. senators grassley, hatch and lugar were co-sponsors, as was senate majority leader, then senate majority leader, bob dole. and countless other republicans have endorsed the mandate in recent years. in 2009 senator grassley did. in 2007 s

. >> that's justice breyer, and he's speaking to michael carvin, the attorney representing the nationalen businesses and jess, take us through the other justices appointed presidents? >> president obama's own appointees, jueotomayor aggressively gan. challenged them particularly of the government in the view, their claim this wan an exercise of the taxing power. it seemed that while she was likely to uphold the law, she might question whether it felld. then justice kagan, theppointed court, she questioned really what the dispute was all about,w conceded that the federal government can require everyone to pay for health insurance, or rather pay for health care with insurance, that meant that the government could require them to do it, say, after they've been hit by a bus and brought to an emergency room. if they can make them pay at the poiney do it at more rational point, which is earlier in the year? >> looking at live images right now outside the supreme court and watchificers give out tickets to the people who have been waiting in line so they can get seats inside and watch the proceed

michael carvin, thank you. best of luck to you. >> thank you megyn, see you soon. >>> megyn: coming up, house republicans went after the administration about a decision two years ago to ban oil drilling in the gulf of mexico, saying the administration, quote, bent the truth in a move that cost jobs and drove up prices. we'll show you what happened, next. >>> plus, imagine a classroom without any mention of the evil word dinosaur, birthday, or halloween. can you imagine? the scorn? do you remember the pain you felt upon reading these words in your high school test? they've all been banned! from one of the nation's biggest school districts. details on what critics call a bizarre new push for political correctness. >> new details on a story that broke on "america live". we'll speak with one of the passengers who was there as this jetblue captain was brought down after suffering an emotional meltdown while 30,000 feet in the air. >> if it wasn't for the people on this plane, tieing him up, then he would have killed

. >> attorney michael carvin argued against the health care law and rejects comparisons like mandatingre and requirements for car insurance. >> once you decide to get into the car, they can tell you how fast to drive but they can't tell you to buy a car.. >> i think there would be a big impact on the law but i don't think the court would strike it down in its entirety. >> reporter: the court takes up its final two round of hearings on wednesday wrapping up an unprecedented three days and six hours of hearings. and the issued today will focus on severability, if this law can be broken apart, if parts it was will still stand and also for the provision on medicaid, whether that will pose an undue burden to the states. the court is not expected to leach a final ruling until sometime this summer. >> thank you for the update. >>> another big story. members of congress rallying around the family of a florida teenager gunned down by a neighborhood watch captain. the parents of trayvon martin testified in front of a group of lawmakers yesterday. elected leaders spoke about several issues includ

and that might be an overreading but certainly the plaintiffs, the challengers here, michael carvin youay as was possible. >> where is the burden here? if we're talking about the mandate being on life support, who has the burden of proof here and what is that burden? how large is it and where's the spectrum? >> well, it depends how you look at the case. on the one hand, laws passed by congress are clearly presumed to be constitutional but on the other hand justice kennedy, the center vote, asked the solicitor general when instrument a law that is so unusual that does something that haents been done before don't you the government bear a special burden of justifying it. so there's no right or wrong answer to who has the burden here. i would say that after this oral argument probably the government has the burden here to articulate the limiting principle and the -- a majority of the supreme court didn't seem today to be persuaded. we'll see what happens when they write an opinion but it was a discouraging day for the government for sure. >> everyone has a bad day and maybe that's the case

he is speaking to michael carvin.ess bravin, take us through the other two justices that were appointed by a democratic president. guest: justice senato and sotomayor and justice kagan. there was one area where she seemed skeptical of the government. that was in their claim that this was an exercise of the taxing power. it seemed like she might question whether it fell under the taxing power. justice kagan, the most recent just disappointed to the court, -- the most recent justice appointed to the court questioned what it was all about. it meant that the government could require them to do it after they were hit by a bus and brought to an emergency room. if they could make them pay at the point of purchase, why couldn't they do it at a more rational point. host: we're looking at live images outside the supreme court. we're watching officers give out tickets to people waiting in line. some people stay out all night. some people camped out for a number of days to get into yesterday's arguments in particular. now we see

and michael carvin. those are three of the most breathtaking oral advocates you will see.ould suggest listening in, if only to see the sort of harlem globetrotters of caller: thanks for c-span. one thing i have seen an yesterday in the local paper mentioning that the individual mandate is primarily for risk pooling and that will force healthy individuals who don't see the need for insurance to buy it rather than being the rationale being to because everyone will eventually need it. it is to get people who don't need it to get their money into the system. the other point they made was that the decision not to buy a product can be considered activity. guest: the point has been made by the government that everyone, even healthy people, are one minute away from needing healthcare whether an accident or sudden illness. so, that is why they think the individual mandate is justified because you are requiring people to get insurance before they need it but ultimately everybody will need it. guest: listening to the caller it is interesting people are complaining about pwhrapbing pr