earlier we spoke to a hong kong legislative council, michael chen. here he is.hael: we have had 14 days of no new cases of local infection, so we are going to relax the icial distancing limits too, am proposing, 12, so you can at least dine out with the whole family. the government is probably thinking about eight. another 14 days, day 17, all the experts are saying if we go to 28 days of zero cases of local infection, we could actually completely do away with the social distancing measure. however, we should require certain situations, that people where face masks. it is becoming increasingly clear that face masks makes a huge difference in terms of relaxing the social distancing measures in the future, so public transport, gathering more than 12 people, church gatherings, things like that. so i think we are on the way to good situations by the end of may. >> but if you compare it to other nations, hong kong, as you mentioned, has a huge treasure chest when it comes to its fiscal reserves. should it be doing more than what it has already done? people willg kong

chen and six adults at sandy hook elementary school. and in 2014, intense protests erupted over the police killing of michael brown in ferguson, missouri. joining us now are two key figures previous presides have relied upon during times of national emergency.se andrew cared as chief of staff to president george w. bush andelped lead the administration's response after 9/11. he is now chair of the natiol endowment for democracy, a non- profit organization in washington. and former chicago mayor rahm obama's first chietaff, att the height of the great recession.om weto both of you. it's so good to see you. let me ask you, first, is there really any way to prepare for a crisis like this one, a pandemic? rahm emanuel, i mean, you didn't face anything quite like this, did you? >> well, not like this, but we faced multi-- the difference is we faced aisis of a great. recession, two of the lonst wars in american history, and auto industry and a manufacturg base that was ing to collapse, and a financial sector that had totallcontracted. ro it was a multiple series of dominoes that we crises across the board, rather than one publicealth crisis i

michael merson is professor of global health at duke university. he held a number of leadership potions at the world health including directinr acute, respiratory infections control program. and lanhee chen is the director of domestic policy studies at stanford university. he also served in the george w. bush administration as a senior official at the department of healthnd human services. thank you very much. welcome to the "newshour" to you both. dr. merson, let me start with you. what do you ma of the fundamental critique of the w.h.o.? i think one can argue that the chinese government did not act fast and strong enough at ie appearance of thnew coronavirus. they ignored some early signs and they stifled some whistleblowers, and this nekeds to be lo into, but i think, from the standpoint of w.h.o., i think they -- for the most part -- acted quickly and decisively. >> reporter: lanhee chen, what about that? did they acquickly and decisively? the strzok said they accepted china too much at face value. >> i don't think there is any questionhat the w.h.o. was more interested in this case specifically of parroting what the chinese government was telling it as opposed to truly evaluating th

just released in the last hour and oliver chen is with us to talk about retail earnings and the big box names he likes so far. michael, start it off with you what stands out? >> yeah. the market just bobbed right back up from that late-day selloff yesterday. in fact, the low for today in the s&p 500 hit about three or four times was yesterday's high. so it seems as if, you know, big money investors continue to behave in a way that suggests they feel underexposed to stocks if they're not going to pull back a lot we've been talking a lot about this rotation theme. you have small caps up a lot and fin tech and financial all we're really doing is stretching the upside of this trading range. and we're hovering at this point around significant s&p 3,000 a lot of stuff comes together right there. that ends up being a pull. a few significant dates where you had big news driven rallies and news about the coronavirus so first you remember that crazy march 13th late day rally when the president had that press conference with ceos, market was up well over a thousand points there was an idea that there was going to be a national