and we got the cooperation to have the secretary of homeland security, michael chertoff, stay beyondthe inaugural, be away from sight so if anything happened, he could direct the homeland security response. next time around we may not have that, and we need to think about ways in which we can deal with it because of the niger is the worst-case. but finding a way to make sure that we protect worst-case and arias is the fiduciary responsibility of our leaders to insist that if we have a period of martial law, it is as short as possible, that we get our constitutional institutions of government up and running quickly. that there is no question about who was actually in charge and that we get some responsiveness to the will of the people as we go along. there are ways to do it. these are not written in stone. we thought very carefully and evaded, weighing some of those issues. and all we really ask for now is that we begin to get some hearings and debate in congress so that we can move forward, not having to wait, although i think jamie is right, and then have the american people say why

joining me now, scott weber, counsel for michael chertoff at the department of homeland security.talking to us. this is such a devastating story on so many levels. this agent was a 30 -year-old father of two small children. justice. when will we see it and what's being done to find these killers now seem actually, there is a massive manhunt underway with several federal agencies. the fbi is the lead on this because the killing of a federal officer is a federal crime. so the fbi in conjunction with department of homeland security, the ice component which is immigration's access to enforcement and the border patrol's working with the san diego sheriff's office and our counterparts in mexico two try and hunt down the killers of agent roses. >> julie: from what we know, the officer responded to the first incident alone. i understand the president of the border patrol unit and -- you expressed concerned over the increasing danger agents face especially since they often patrol desolate areas alone. often they don't have time for backup -- back up to -- for backup to arrive. why is that?

. >> the former secretary of homeland security michael chertoff develop a plan to embed reporters during natural disasters. is this a good idea? >> you know, i welcome reporters to cover what we do during a disaster. i welcome reporters who volunteered during a disaster. i think it would be absolutely amazed at what the red cross and our partners do when a country needs us. i think we make a great reality tv show, actually. i think it is a great idea when the american public can learn whatever they can learn, and i would welcome the coverage. it helps people understand our mission, it helps people be generous with the red cross, and i think it would astound and warm the hearts of the readers to see the incredible, heroic, extraordinary feats that people go through to help each other. >> you have talked about the work the red cross does in the u.s. what is your role internationally? >> we are part of the international federation of red cross and red cross societies, and there are 186 members. believe it or not, collectively, we have 97 million volunteers. it is the largest humanitarian ef

number of people including national security adviser condoleeza rice, fbi director mueller and michael chertoff thank you steve. >>> apologize or not? one of the burning questions on foxnews.com. yesterday president tried to tamp down the controversy surrounding we he said police acted stupidly what resting professor gates. he said the officer was a good man. steam to stop short of saying he was sorry. >> i want to make clear that, in my choice of words, i think i unfortunately, gave an impression that i was maligning the cambridge police"z department or sergeant crowley. >> brian: here's what some of you think by topic on the world wide web: should he apologize? i don't know, maybe. but he has a point that the police didn't act with the best judgment. a lot of comments we are receiving are like this from rick from ohio: there will never be an apology because he believes he did nothing wrong and is above apologizing. if you want to enter the fray and why wouldn't you? go to foxnation.com and tell us what you think. >> congress can't seem to stop fighting over how to give health care to more tha

just the third secretary of homeland security after my distinguished predecessors tom ridge and michael chertoff. let me give you a sense of how i see that threat environment that we are in, talk about what we wanted to counter that threat in the four areas i just identified. what does the world that we face a look like today? first, while the terrorist threat is ever changing, it is critical to reiterate that the threat remains. the consensus view of the intelligence community, which dhs is a member, is that the threat is persistent and involving. in my daily briefings and as a member of the council, this is something that i discuss with the president and the rest of the security team on a regular basis. so we're constantly looking for ways that are -- to better share information up and down the ladder i'd just described. businesses and communities, local law enforcement, federal level, and the international level. the broader context is that we have invested considerably in our border and port security and have substantially reorganized the federal government's focus on the threat of terrorism

host: michael chertoff, the former homeland security secretary under president bush, also has a question for judge sonia sotomayor in "the new york times " this morning. host: phyllis in nashville. caller: to pretend that the lot is neutral and somehow the the law is not based on somebody's empathy or biased toward one group or another is to ignore the history of laws on which negative decisions have been wielded against minorities, starting with the dread scott decision. i support judge sonia sotomayor. i think that the body of her work that i've heard about in the case that she is neutral concerning the law as anyone. i hope people will get away from the mass amnesia and that it will stop pretending that the history of injustice toward minorities in this country is not pertinent. certainly the experience of the judge's such as the types that brought about the dread scott decision -- no one, and certainly not judge sonia sotomayor should back away from the fact that experience and empathy, and as much as judges are not robots, that does not pertain in decision making. host: i want to sh

and we got the cooperation to have the secretary of homeland security, michael chertoff, stay beyondhe inaugural, be away from sight so if anything happened, he could direct the homeland security response. next time around we may not have that, and we need to think about ways in which we can deal with it because of the niger is the worst-case. but finding a way to make sure that we protect worst-case and arias is the fiduciary responsibility of our leaders to insist that if we have a period of martial law, it is as short as possible, that we get our constitutional institutions of government up and running quickly. that there is no question about who was actually in charge and that we get some responsiveness to the will of the people as we go along. there are ways to do it. these are not written in stone. we thought very carefully and evaded, weighing some of those issues. and all we really ask for now is that we begin to get some hearings and debate in congress so that we can move forward, not having to wait, although i think jamie is right, and then have the american people say why

and we got the cooperation to have the secretary of homeland security, michael chertoff, stay beyondthe inaugural, be away from sight so if anything happened, he could direct the homeland security response. next time around we may not have that, and we need to think about ways in which we can deal with it because of the niger is the worst-case. but finding a way to make sure that we protect worst-case and arias is the fiduciary responsibility of our leaders to insist that if we have a period of martial law, it is as short as possible, that we get our constitutional institutions of government up and running quickly. that there is no question about who was actually in charge and that we get some responsiveness to the will of the people as we go along. there are ways to do it. these are not written in stone. we thought very carefully and evaded, weighing some of those issues. and all we really ask for now is that we begin to get some hearings and debate in congress so that we can move forward, not having to wait, although i think jamie is right, and then have the american people say why

michael jackson, was giving him c.p.r. on the bed, we heard in those 911 calls, you'll remember. but interestingly, murray's attorney, ed chertoffsued a statement yesterday, and this is interesting. he said that his client, dr. conrad murray, is completely interesting. and the way he put it was, dr. conrad murray was the last man standing when michael jackson died. and it seems to me, these are the words of the attorney, that all the fury is directed at dr. conrad murray because of that. he says, as you would expicket him to, that his client is entirely innocent and did nothing to induce or bring about the death of michael jackson. but clearly at this stage authorities may think that they may well be evidence to suggest otherwise. shep? shepard: adam, is anyone talking about why he would do such a thing? >> well, shepard, there's something else that needs to be added to this, too. the d.e.a. nationally is also looking at this case very closely. one to support lapd and talk about what jonathan was saying. and the second thing, they believe there's potential that dr. conrad murray may have given drugs to other patients, and they a