former homeland security michael chertoff from washington. etary chertoff, thanks for joining us. at do you make about what is happening in brazil and what happened and why. >> the judge ordered to turn over certain data which was present in the u.s. and u.s. law would have created a problem. so in order to put leverage on the company and hurt a lot of innocent people during the three days that the application was shut down. this is one example of a larger problem in a world which is divided among sovereign states but data moves around the globe. emily: officials have complained about u.s. laws have been outdated and preventing the work of law enforcement. what do you think the problem is? mile mile our laws are nation state based and can control the law within its domain. the challenge with dealing with data, housed anywhere in the globe and moves around the globe. when a law enforcement in one state wants to get data on a matter they are investigating, the issue is, is the data in that state, in another state, do you have competing or existi

but i will quote again michael chertoff from the federalist society national lawyer's contention from all land security secretary under president george w. bush. and i completely agree with that. he says we cannot live as if if liberty without security but we would not want to live in security without liberty. again, i wholeheartedly believed of that statement and i devoted my life to would be insane civil liberties and i never felt to be more in endangered and when i was in a country that lacked basic security while they dig up for today's debate what i find most terrifying was not only the encroachment of privacy and free speech as noted in that quotation but imf least as terrified to have government surveillance to make them more foldable including terrorism immune to sabotage with technological dash tech but -- technology experts i am a patriot so i do not share this statement give me liberty or give me death i should be a life to enjoy my liberties. so i want to quote a brief that was fired -- that was filed, a prominent and respective group of experts sent a detailed the securit

emily: former homeland security secretary michael chertoff, thank you for joining us.ing up, is the driverless car revolution right around the corner? and gm are teaming up to bring self driving taxis to a city near you. ♪ emily: more earnings acts -- action. more than blizzard doubles sales. acluding content from what gaming company acquired. profits rose to $.23 a share, $.12, than estimates of .nd it was up to $908 million shares enjoying a nice lead in after-hours trading. rising --es also after company raised projections for the year, following better-than-expected revenues in the first quarter. they had $158.6 million topping estimates. amazon could take as much of a 30% stake in a large cargo carrier called atlas air. it is the second such deal this year as the company steps up efforts to take control of delivery logistics. i list will operate 20 going theo planes, doubling listing fee. shares of atlas searched as much as 51% at one point in thursday trading. coming up, we'll hear from the men ushering in a digital revolution in education, sal k han. ♪ Âi >> a l

mike mcconnell, michael chertoff and william lynn, former defense secretary. for several years, they have been writing that the chinese government poses a serious national security threat through its massive theft of intellectual property, technology and business information. they therefore advocate ubiquitous encryption to protect against such cyber exploitation. they do recognize obviously as former law enforcement security officials, they recognize the serious concerns that the fbi has raised that such encryption would allow criminals to keep their communications secret. but they explain, we believe that the greater public good is a secure communications infrastructure protected by ubiquitous encryption without building in the means for government monitoring for three reasons. first, this would protect individual privacy and business information from exploitation. second, requiring u.s. technology providers to build in access for law enforcement will not prevent malicious actors from finding other technology providers who will furnish ubiquitous encryption.