michael chertoff, welcome to hardtalk.

i am tempted to begin by checking to see if you are the same michael chertoff who a decade oi’ same michaelrtoff who a decade or more ago was an arch advocate of enhanced electronic surveillance of citizens in pursuit of national security. are you that same guy? well, i was the secretary of homeland security, but it wasn't really su rveilla nce homeland security, but it wasn't really surveillance in the sense that we're thinking about it now. it was about taking data that was readily available, and a fairly modest amount of data, and beginning to analyse it so we could find connections between travellers, for example, coming from overseas and known terrorists in the middle east and elsewhere. it was a lot of data, because it was telecommunications, but also it was the internet, because we were then, talking about the patriot act, of which you were one of the key architect, it was a period when the us government was preoccupied with electronic counterterror measures. and you personally seemed to be a great supporter of expanding the role of state surveillance. actually, it was a fairly modes

i read for therapy or so this weekend for instance i read michael chertoff's new book on privacy, which is really good and had some privacy legislation to introduce. i also read romance come as by thrillers. i want to know newt gingrich's latest book by brett bair's latest book. i could bring my kindle up for you. i read everything. i read an average of the book a day or about every other day. >> host: what you have on the kindle? >> guest: the book i'm reading today, i first learned about the bad nuclear crisis several years ago in learning about their capabilities. this is teaches you a lot about dan rather of the road as it is, james copper and of course i have to read a book about trumps america. i have a ton of other books. i wrote james patterson, one of my favorite authors. i finished bill clinton's book the day it came out. i finished the other book today that it came out. so i read everything. including a little light romance can escape the world. [inaudible conversations] >> good evening, everyone. welcome to the strand bookstore. i am the owner of this

it's now my pleasure to introduce tonight's guest, the honorable michael chertoff, former secretary of homeland security under george w. bush and author of the terrific new book , "exploding data", claiming our cyber security in the digital age. as director from 2005 to 2009, mike chertoff led the country in blocking would be terrorists.before heading up the department of homeland security, secretary chertoff served as federal judge in the court of appeals for the third circuit. currently as cofounder and executivechairman of the chertoff group he provides high-level strategic counsel to corporate and government leaders on a broad range of security issues. today, we will discuss secretary chertoff's belief that the growth of the internet has made our greatest threats not physical but digital. please welcome secretary chertoff . [applause] >> thank you and i want to say when i saw the gavel i-4 wow, i haven't hadone that close since i was a judge . felt like banging it over there. then i realized when you're on the court of appeals, you don't actually use that. >> i used to use a gavelw

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it is my pleasure to introduce to get michael chertoff under george w. bush and his author of his new book exploding data. as secretary to u.s. department of homeland security 2005 through 2009 he led the country before heading up the department of homeland security he served as a federal judge u.s. port of appeals for the third circuit. currently as cofounder of the chertoff group he provides high-level strategic to corporate and government leaders on a broad range of security issues. today, we will discuss his belief that the growth has made our greatest threat not physical but digital. please book the sec. chertoff_spee17 speemac thank you. >> when i saw the gavel i thought i haven't had a gavel since i haven't had a gavel since i was a judge left on the court of appeals you don't have to use that. >> i used to use one when i would preside over the house when nancy was the speaker. it was five times the size of this but the trick is helping you go like this. (though. it is only effective if you have the look that my mother taught me. so now let's get