stay with us. >>> former homeland security secretaries jeh johnson and michael chertoff.ke being able to have you both here because you both dealt with a very hard problem set. so, a lot of people have opinions but you actually know what it's like to be in the job. let me give you a really hard one, which is what to do about the southern border. in the last year, 2.5 million migrants, roughly, have been encountered. that's a record high. the governor of texas is boasting he sent more than 13,000 immigrants to new york, to chicago, to washington and now to philadelphia, where bus loads arrived this week. secretary chertoff, these migrants have legal status because they're going through asylum. are the asylum laws too generous in this country?

. >>> plus, former homeland security secretaries jayoe jeh johnson and michael chertoff on what the publican do to stem the violence and prepare our immigration for a change at the southern border. it's all just ahead on "face the nation." ♪ >>> good morning. welcome to "face the nation." for many americans, thanksgiving felt almost normal this year. but a year after the deadly surge of covid's omicron variant, we're not out from under the virus just yet. the cdc says a new covid variant of concern, xbb has surfed. on the other side of the world, china is reporting a fourth daily record of new covid infections as an unprecedented wave of protests ripples across the country. residents from shanghai to beijing are taking to the streets in anger over china's zero covid policies that have kept much of the country under pandemic quarantine for years. those restrictions are weighing on the global supply chain. we begin this morning in the u.s. with the danger posed by three respiratory viruses. we spoke with president biden's chief medical adviser earlier and asked him about the risks for people

>>> former homeland security secretaries jeh johnson and michael chertoff. gentlemen, i like being able to have you both here because you both dealt with a very hard problem set. so, a lot of people have opinions but you actually know what it's like to be in the job. let me give you a really hard one, which is what to do about the southern border. in the last year, 2.5 million migrants, roughly, have been encountered. that's a record high. the governor of texas is boasting he sent more than 13,000 immigrants to new york, to chicago, to washington and now to philadelphia, where bus loads arrived this week. secretary chertoff, these migrants have legal status because they're going through asylum. are the asylum laws too generous in this country? >> well, i mean, we can certainly take a look at the asylum laws but we obey the international law and now we have the issues of ukrainians fleeing with the war going on in ukraine. one of the things the administration has done, which i think is helpful, is they've moved the evaluation process down to those agents who