his friend is a major international supervisor, michael ciocca. thank you very much for speaking to us there, and that's all i've got for you for the moment from movies. all right, thanks for that. john hall in levine lets me to another are analyst safe on wolf. he is a professor of international security. the university of funding in the u. k. thanks for joining us. mr. wolfe was he will take care. do you foresee this turning into a protracted conflict? yes, i think the, the phones all back at the moment. neither if flush are going to let, this is the question again for ukraine, nor is ukrainian resistance to going going to crumble anytime soon. i think for as long as ukraine can hold out quarterly for a small go with western supplies will be getting in to support the ukrainian resistance and the smallest. thanks, capped off and put the b intensive part. i think we are in here for a really long and potentially quite, quite darkly and cloudy was in a funeral. if the issue is, how long can ukraine hold out? i mean, to put that question to you, how