for michael cohen, first off, what are students saying about fine's firing tonight?t must have been quite a shock. >> yeah, it was quite a shock. i was working on a group project when the announcement came from the chancellor. all three people i was working with were in shock, surprised. and it's definitely something no one was expecting at this point. you know, with, obviously, the new information that came out today, people's opinions started to change a little bit, but still, for the firing to take place on a sunday evening was surprising for everyone. >> michael, do you think the comparison to penn state is a fair one? >> no, i really don't. you know what we had at penn state, and i was down there reporting on that as well, what we had was a three-year grand jury report that produced a 23-page report that -- and there were charges filed against jerry sandusky. what we have to keep in mind, there are still no charges as of this point filed against bernie fine. that's something that's very important to consider. that's one of the biggest differences. you're also lo