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no. >> why did michael cohen make that payment -- >> well, you'll have to ask michael cohen. michael is my attorney. you'll have to ask michael cohen. >> do you know where he got the money to make that payment? >> i don't know, no. >> reporter: four months later the president changed his story saying he only knew about daniels' payout after it happened. >> did you know about the payments? >> later on i knew, later on. >> we're also seeing text messages between michael cohen and hope hicks for the first time when they talked about that "wall street journal" story concerning karen mcdougal. it turns out their concern soon turned to celebration when they realized that story was not getting much traction in the media. those were the claims that karen mcdougal made about having an affair with the president. we've also learned that the house judiciary committee will be looking into the statements that hope hicks has already made, looking into the truthfulness of those statements. hope hicks has told my colleague, sara murray, that everything that she said was truthful. >> very inter
no. >> why did michael cohen make that payment -- >> well, you'll have to ask michael cohen. michael is my attorney. you'll have to ask michael cohen. >> do you know where he got the money to make that payment? >> i don't know, no. >> reporter: four months later the president changed his story saying he only knew about daniels' payout after it happened. >> did you know about the payments? >> later on i knew, later on. >> we're also seeing text...
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commit the crimes and thehim, the crimes which michael cohen is imprisoned tonight.d your attorney general reopen that investigation and examine indicting donald trump? >> this is what i would tell my attorney general. you treat him like you would treat any other citizen. i believe if he were treated like any other citizen, he absolutely would be prosecuted. he'd be behind bars. >> secretary coors, we're going to try to squeeze in a break. i want to discuss your policing reform proposals when we get back. what i heard you say this week on this matter, which is the strongest statement i have heard about police use of force by a presidential candidate ever, which as you know, doesn't have a lot of competition. it's not something a lot of candidates talk about. we're going to do that right after this break. >> thank you. after this break >> thank you i switched to liberty mutual, because they let me customize my insurance. and as a fitness junkie, i customize everything, like my bike, and my calves. liberty mutual customizes your car insurance, so you only pay for what
commit the crimes and thehim, the crimes which michael cohen is imprisoned tonight.d your attorney general reopen that investigation and examine indicting donald trump? >> this is what i would tell my attorney general. you treat him like you would treat any other citizen. i believe if he were treated like any other citizen, he absolutely would be prosecuted. he'd be behind bars. >> secretary coors, we're going to try to squeeze in a break. i want to discuss your policing reform...
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insisting there was no misconduct here, no cover-up, and of course he was named in federal court by michael cohene individual who directed cohen -- >> those documents he was individual one, and today in the new documents, they say donald trump. >> today they specifically say donald trump. they also just reveal the extent of his knowledge. he was involved in this discussions from start to finish. it's not just something he learned about after the fact or maybe discussed with michael cohen once or twice. he was repeatedly in contact with his attorney, and now you have democrats say he would be indicted if he wasn't a sitting president. >> let me have ron weigh in. >> these two stories are related. if you look at polling, roughly a third of the people who say they approve of the way donald trump is handling the economy, which is usually one of the most powerful measures, say they don't think he's honest and trustworthy. what that means he's underperforming any president ever, among voters -- that is his biggest strategic vulnerability. what it means is that since he can't get as many swing voters as
insisting there was no misconduct here, no cover-up, and of course he was named in federal court by michael cohene individual who directed cohen -- >> those documents he was individual one, and today in the new documents, they say donald trump. >> today they specifically say donald trump. they also just reveal the extent of his knowledge. he was involved in this discussions from start to finish. it's not just something he learned about after the fact or maybe discussed with michael...
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the trump campaign went into damage control, michael cohen, trump's former personal attorney and fixer and hope hicks, then reached out to david pecor, the chief executive of american media. over the series of at least ten frenzied call, cohen play ed pl middle man. i believe some of these communications prevent the need from arrived are clifford from going public, an fbi agent wrote. two weeks bev the general election, cohen initiated the $130,000 wire transfer to pay off daniels. the same day, he spoke with trump over the phone at least twice. as president, trump has insisted he had no knowledge of the hush money payments. >> reporter: did you know about the $130,000 payment to stormy daniels? >> no, no. >> reporter: why is -- >> well, you have to ask michael cohen. michael is my attorney. >> reporter: cohen, who is now serving three years in prison, implicated the president when he pled guilty to eight counts of financial crimes. new court foolings reaffirm what prosecutors previously alleged. this week the judge demanded less redacted version of search warrants and other materials
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the material seized in that raid eventually became the indictment to which michael cohen pled guilty. to crimes included two campaign finance felonies in which cohen admitted to setting up a quarter million dollars in payments to two women to stop them from going public with claims they had affairs with then candidate donald trump. those payments by definition were intended to help trump's campaign by keeping the women quiet ahead of the elections. the payments were not disclosed for payments designed to help the campaign. you can't spend that money to benefit a campaign and not disclose it. there are rules governing what you can spend on a campaign and who you have to tell. the campaign finance felonies is why he is serving a several year sentence right now. now, after michael cohen got raided and pled guilty. news organizations went to court in new york in new york federal court to ask the judge to unseal the search warrants for the raids on him and the fbi's affidavits about what they found when they executed the search warrants. the motion by the news organizations was basically b
the material seized in that raid eventually became the indictment to which michael cohen pled guilty. to crimes included two campaign finance felonies in which cohen admitted to setting up a quarter million dollars in payments to two women to stop them from going public with claims they had affairs with then candidate donald trump. those payments by definition were intended to help trump's campaign by keeping the women quiet ahead of the elections. the payments were not disclosed for payments...
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it's not based just on michael cohen's word. i think that's an important revelation from today's document. in fact, this it is based on the fbi agent's review of telephone records belonging to michael cohen where they have identified donald trump, then candidate donald trump's phone number, and have pointed out there was several phone conversations that occurred and in the estimation of the fbi agent in their probable cause filing here that the president was involved in this campaign finance scheme. >> again, the document appears to be about 269 pages long, so i know you're still going through it. tom, it looks like there's some sort of wire transfer that's referenced as well on august -- excuse me, october 27th of 2016, which would have been just days before the election. what more do we know about that? >> so that's all tied to the payments that we know that were occurring with respect to a payment to stormy daniels' then attorney, keith davidson, and it was money that was going to go to keith davidson and then he was going to
it's not based just on michael cohen's word. i think that's an important revelation from today's document. in fact, this it is based on the fbi agent's review of telephone records belonging to michael cohen where they have identified donald trump, then candidate donald trump's phone number, and have pointed out there was several phone conversations that occurred and in the estimation of the fbi agent in their probable cause filing here that the president was involved in this campaign finance...
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search warrants related to a 2018 raid of michael cohen's home and office released today by the southern district of new york describe a series of calls back in october of 2016 between trump, cohen, and former white house communications director hope hicks. that resulted in cohen agreeing to make an illegal campaign contribution paid directly to stormy daniels. the federal judge who denied the government's request for limited redactions to protect third party interests called the violations in the matter a matter of national importance. he says, it is time that every american has an opportunity to scrutinize these very materials. and scrutinize they have been. joining me now, nbc news correspondent, tom winter. walk me through, what have we learned from these documents that we didn't know this morning? >> i think a couple things. as far as the over arching scheme we've known about this. we've known there were payments made, we know that the payments were made, you know, on behalf of, according to what michael cohen said and other documentation these payments were made on behalf of the pr
search warrants related to a 2018 raid of michael cohen's home and office released today by the southern district of new york describe a series of calls back in october of 2016 between trump, cohen, and former white house communications director hope hicks. that resulted in cohen agreeing to make an illegal campaign contribution paid directly to stormy daniels. the federal judge who denied the government's request for limited redactions to protect third party interests called the violations in...
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>> you'll have to ask michael cohen. hael is my attorney and you'll have to ask michael cohen. >> reporter: do you know where he got the money to make the payment? >> no, i don't know. >> that is now a verifiable lie. carrie, you've been doing this reporting, tell us about these phone calls. >> these phone calls that are detailed in this affidavit supporting the application for a search warrant, this is based on records that the fbi had obtained, showing that there were these communications. so just so when you compare it to donald's statement there, you really see that these are phone statements, these are records that shows that there were these communications. what it told us was that the day after the "access hollywood" tape went public, there was a mad scramble in the trump campaign, a phone call between donald trump, michael cohen, hope hicks, his communications strategist then. they were trying to get a handle on all this negative information at the time. the fbi said they believe these phone calls were all discuss
>> you'll have to ask michael cohen. hael is my attorney and you'll have to ask michael cohen. >> reporter: do you know where he got the money to make the payment? >> no, i don't know. >> that is now a verifiable lie. carrie, you've been doing this reporting, tell us about these phone calls. >> these phone calls that are detailed in this affidavit supporting the application for a search warrant, this is based on records that the fbi had obtained, showing that there...
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>> no, no. >> why did michael cohen make this payment? >> you have to ask michael cohen. rney and you'll have to ask michael cohen. >> do you know where he got the money? >> i don't know. >> okay. so here's the thing. court filings show that he spoke to donald trump at least twice on the day he transferred the money to pay off stormy daniels. we know within 30 minutes of speaking to trump, cohen opened his bank, opened new account, transferred the $130,000 payment. how damaging is that? >> it just shows that donald trump has zero credibility with respect to that statement that he didn't know what was going on. i think michael cohen made it very clear in his testimony before congress that he was acting at the direction and in coordination with trump and other members of the trump organization. that has been corroborated by executives at ami, and now by the information revealed today with respect to the warrants that the fbi got as they were investigating the whole hush money payment scheme. donald trump is just not credible. let's just call it what it is. he lied. he absolu
>> no, no. >> why did michael cohen make this payment? >> you have to ask michael cohen. rney and you'll have to ask michael cohen. >> do you know where he got the money? >> i don't know. >> okay. so here's the thing. court filings show that he spoke to donald trump at least twice on the day he transferred the money to pay off stormy daniels. we know within 30 minutes of speaking to trump, cohen opened his bank, opened new account, transferred the $130,000...
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these phone records all come from authorized court ordered search warrants of michael cohen's phone records. there's no wire tap device here. i want to say that up front. apparently on the night of october 8th there's a phone call between trump, cohen and hope hicks who was interviewed by the fbi. we learned that today as part of these documents be unredacted. 8:03, there's an eight minute phone call, this is with david pecker, the publisher of the national inquirer. the fbi notes leading up to this, trump and cohen had spoken ininfrastructu infrequently, twice in september, once in july, once in june, respectalfully. they speak on the 26th of october and that's when michael cohen finishes setting up his bank account of his shell company. that's the morning he funds into escrow the $130,000 payment for stormy daniels' attorney which was going to be passed today stormy daniels. the two have another phone call on the 28th of october. tha that's when michael cohen confirms it was a done deal. everything's been over. these are five eight minute phone calls. it's that detailed, the president's i
these phone records all come from authorized court ordered search warrants of michael cohen's phone records. there's no wire tap device here. i want to say that up front. apparently on the night of october 8th there's a phone call between trump, cohen and hope hicks who was interviewed by the fbi. we learned that today as part of these documents be unredacted. 8:03, there's an eight minute phone call, this is with david pecker, the publisher of the national inquirer. the fbi notes leading up to...
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it was part of the case against michael cohen. it's a potential case against president trump when he leaves office. is there anybody else or are they done? >> so as part of the filing today, we did see the prosecutors' note to the judge. this was all prompted because media, including cnn, had wanted access to these materials. so the prosecutors had to explain to the judge where they were in the course of this investigation, because as the judge had said these documents were very important for the public to know and to be able to scrutinize them themselves. and in that just very brief document, the prosecutors said that they had pretty much completed their investigation into both -- whether anybody else acted with michael cohen and whether anyone had lied during the course of this investigation. now, they don't say specifically that there won't be any other charges or any other people charged, but what we do know from our reporting is that it is unlikely that there's going to be anyone charged at the trump organization. as part of
it was part of the case against michael cohen. it's a potential case against president trump when he leaves office. is there anybody else or are they done? >> so as part of the filing today, we did see the prosecutors' note to the judge. this was all prompted because media, including cnn, had wanted access to these materials. so the prosecutors had to explain to the judge where they were in the course of this investigation, because as the judge had said these documents were very important...
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>> you have to ask michael cohen. michael's my attorney and you'll have to ask michael cohen. >> do you know where he got the money to make that payment? >> no, i don't know. no. >> he did know, errol. all the evidence is he knew. there's all these phone calls. there are the checks. there's michael cohen's testimony. the evidence says the president was lying to the american people. >> that's right. look. frankly you can see it in his demeanor in the clip you just showed. you say that guy's not telling the truth. right. the president has lied to the american people that by the way is an impeachable offense. you look at the list of particulars in past impeachments. it includes misleading the public in this way. we now have somebody sitting in prison who has said over and over again and who, in fact, has recordings to back him up sort of saying this was all done at the behest of, in collaboration with, and for the benefit of donald trump. it's one more additional piece of information that people now have about something t
>> you have to ask michael cohen. michael's my attorney and you'll have to ask michael cohen. >> do you know where he got the money to make that payment? >> no, i don't know. no. >> he did know, errol. all the evidence is he knew. there's all these phone calls. there are the checks. there's michael cohen's testimony. the evidence says the president was lying to the american people. >> that's right. look. frankly you can see it in his demeanor in the clip you just...
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it's michael cohen.hough that payment was to benefit the trump campaign and michael cohen and prosecutors say the payment was directed by trump, today we got unsealed in court the litany of calls and e-mails and texts involving the president himself and cohen and kellyanne conway and hope hicks the guys from "the national enquirer," and the women gets illegal payments. cohen is going back and forth with the woman's lawyer and cohen is on the phone with the president as his first call after he speaks with the woman's lawyer. the president is on the phone twice before they send stormy daniels $130,000. cohen is out at the bank setting up a new bank account from which he will make the payment. right after the payment is sent. cohen is right back on the phone with trump. we have all that was now from the case that prosecutors brought against michael cohen. they are not going to bring the case against anybody else. the scam worked, right? election chances intact. neither spoke about the affairs before the ele
it's michael cohen.hough that payment was to benefit the trump campaign and michael cohen and prosecutors say the payment was directed by trump, today we got unsealed in court the litany of calls and e-mails and texts involving the president himself and cohen and kellyanne conway and hope hicks the guys from "the national enquirer," and the women gets illegal payments. cohen is going back and forth with the woman's lawyer and cohen is on the phone with the president as his first call...
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the only reason he's not doing time with michael cohen, his former fixer michael cohen right now, thereason trump isn't doing time is because he's president of the united states. >> so, paul butler, something i wondered when i read these documents and it became clearer to me how and why the southern district named donald trump is individual one and we're all talking about him as an unindicted co-conspirator and we talk about an underlying crime, there it is, the director if you believe the materials and illegal campaign finance hush money scheme, what happened now? >> trump isn't out of legal jeopardy in this case and many others. so there could be an adietmeind the day he leaves office given his level of involvement in this conspiracy. he has a lot of legal jeopardy in other cases as well. the trump organization is being investigated by the state's attorney general in new jersey and new york, his inauguration committee, his charitable foundation and we've got criminal trials coming up with jess epstein and roger stone. if those guys don't want to spend the rest of their lives in pris
the only reason he's not doing time with michael cohen, his former fixer michael cohen right now, thereason trump isn't doing time is because he's president of the united states. >> so, paul butler, something i wondered when i read these documents and it became clearer to me how and why the southern district named donald trump is individual one and we're all talking about him as an unindicted co-conspirator and we talk about an underlying crime, there it is, the director if you believe...
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and the ami camp, they seemed to have some sort of agreement with howard sends a text message to michael cohenll do it. keith davidson was representing stormy daniels in her initial deal with the trump organization that cohen had paid the $130,000 to silence her story about having the affair with donald trump just before the election. another key element in this search warrant filings that we've honed in on is that when michael cohen was wiring that $130,000 payment to keith davidson and talking to him about making that payment to stormy daniels, he had at least two telephone conversation thas very day with donald trump. now, the big question here has always been what was donald trump's role in this. michael cohen, when he pleaded guilty, he said he did it in coordination with and at the direction of the president. this search warrant material now seems to indicate that donald trump was having conversations with cohen twice that day, twice the same day that he was making those wire transaction information over to keith davidson. so it puts donald trump very squarely in the midst o of all of th
and the ami camp, they seemed to have some sort of agreement with howard sends a text message to michael cohenll do it. keith davidson was representing stormy daniels in her initial deal with the trump organization that cohen had paid the $130,000 to silence her story about having the affair with donald trump just before the election. another key element in this search warrant filings that we've honed in on is that when michael cohen was wiring that $130,000 payment to keith davidson and...
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and michael cohen is actually going to jail for those payments. and so i think one thing that's happened today is really a tie-in directly of trump to this whole thick which we kind of new because he was already named individual number one. again, it's pretty stark to see this about a sitting president of the united states. so that's the first thing. and then the second thing i'd say is, you know, it also shows the involvement of other people in the trump orbit. hope hicks, who went to congress last month and testified and said i didn't know anything about this and didn't really have any involvement and i wasn't present when michael cohen was talking to donald trump, the reports show actually she was involved in all this and knew quite a bit. both of those things, i think, are significant. they suggest that really michael cohen wasn't acting alone, which is, frankly, pretty obvious. i mean, if your lawyer paid $130,000 to someone or $10 to someone, you would be like, what's this about? trump's defense, i think, has been i didn't know anything abou
and michael cohen is actually going to jail for those payments. and so i think one thing that's happened today is really a tie-in directly of trump to this whole thick which we kind of new because he was already named individual number one. again, it's pretty stark to see this about a sitting president of the united states. so that's the first thing. and then the second thing i'd say is, you know, it also shows the involvement of other people in the trump orbit. hope hicks, who went to congress...
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laura: what is michael cohen saying about the fact that he ih only one charged, briefly?na: from prison he put out statement saying this should concern the american people that ev though donald trump directed him and others in the organization that they had been exonerated, congress and the doj should investigate.ta laura: nadik, thanks for joining us. this week the bbc has been marking 50 years since the moon mission began. neil armstrong and buzzldn's first steps on the lunar surface were watched live by 600 million people here on earth, and those pictures were beamed around the world thanks to a radio trtelescope in rural aia, as the bbc's hywel griffith paid a visit. >> you stripes.he stars and hywel: it was the tv moment of the 20th century. >> beautiful, just beautul. hywel: the giant leap for mankind sent 380,000 kilometers into space and onto screens around the world. it was only possible thanks to this dish. the parks observatory was one of three receiving the signal on earth. it produced the clearest pictures and was the main source of the tv images. david cook
laura: what is michael cohen saying about the fact that he ih only one charged, briefly?na: from prison he put out statement saying this should concern the american people that ev though donald trump directed him and others in the organization that they had been exonerated, congress and the doj should investigate.ta laura: nadik, thanks for joining us. this week the bbc has been marking 50 years since the moon mission began. neil armstrong and buzzldn's first steps on the lunar surface were...
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brangham: meanwhile, felix sater tells michael cohen hein wowith high-level russian officials. ils cohen, saying, "buddy, our boy can become president of the usa, and we can engineer it. i will go all of putin's teamy in on this." desjardins: the moscow trump tower project is just one source of russian contacts. mueller outlines aboutot a dozen of them in. they vary widely.gn campide carter page meets with russians and travels to moscow to give a speech. aide j.d. gordon sayhe pushed for a change in the republican platform to water down tough language about russia and ukraine. policy adviser michael flynn gives speeches in russia and thhas numerous contacts the russian ambassador, including a discussion of softening sanctions foreign policy and national security adviser jeff sessions also meets with the russian ambassador. campaign cguirman paul manafort rly shares internal polling data with a man tied to russian intelligence. and fellow trump aose george papadopoepeatedly meets with a different man connected to russian intelligence, and who tells papadopoulosge papathe russians
brangham: meanwhile, felix sater tells michael cohen hein wowith high-level russian officials. ils cohen, saying, "buddy, our boy can become president of the usa, and we can engineer it. i will go all of putin's teamy in on this." desjardins: the moscow trump tower project is just one source of russian contacts. mueller outlines aboutot a dozen of them in. they vary widely.gn campide carter page meets with russians and travels to moscow to give a speech. aide j.d. gordon sayhe pushed...
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that's part of the reason why michael cohen is serving time. we got these documents today because prosecutors said they had completed their investigation into campaign finance violations by michael cohen and members of the trump org. these documents state on the day after the release of the "access hollywood" tape in october 2016, where we heard donald trump bragging about sexually assaulting women on tape, donald trump, hope hicks and michael cohen spoke on the phone that was followed by a flurry of calls from hope, and members of the "national enquirer." it's worth remembering that at the time, there were reports of discussions at the highest level of the republican party about replacing donald trump on the ticket. those reports have since been borne out in reporting, including in tim alberta's new book "american carnage." donald trump was hanging on by his fingernails at that point. imagine say a day after the tape had been released, word had gotten out that donald trump had had an affair with an adult film star while his wife was home with
that's part of the reason why michael cohen is serving time. we got these documents today because prosecutors said they had completed their investigation into campaign finance violations by michael cohen and members of the trump org. these documents state on the day after the release of the "access hollywood" tape in october 2016, where we heard donald trump bragging about sexually assaulting women on tape, donald trump, hope hicks and michael cohen spoke on the phone that was...
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i don't think michael cohen wasn't doing it out of the generationsty of his heart. >> after all you laid out, why is the only person charged, cohen, and secondly, what real legal jeopardy could hope hicks find herself in as a result of getting cross ways here? >> there's a crime about lying to congress, that's perjury. congressman nadler tonight, the democratic leader of the hours judiciary committee asked hope hicks to come in and clarify her testimony given what she said before. there's a possibility of a crime for that. and then second question is who else could be indicted. and i think we've all known since last year when these first documents were released by federal prosecutors that individual number one is donald trump, and the federal prosecutors are basically saying, look, this guy committed a crime. now, there's a department of justice policy that prevents the indictment of a sitting president, but there's nothing to prevent donald trump from being indicted for these campaign finance violations after he leaves office and indeed the statute of limitations doesn't expire until 20
i don't think michael cohen wasn't doing it out of the generationsty of his heart. >> after all you laid out, why is the only person charged, cohen, and secondly, what real legal jeopardy could hope hicks find herself in as a result of getting cross ways here? >> there's a crime about lying to congress, that's perjury. congressman nadler tonight, the democratic leader of the hours judiciary committee asked hope hicks to come in and clarify her testimony given what she said before....
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>> you'll have to ask michael cohen. michael is my attorney and you'll have to ask him. >> that does not appear to be true. which we knew, but again we're learning it was greater volume now. >> to be clear, we don't know the contents of any of these. the sheer volume of the number of calls that were going on around this, this was all spur bid the "access hollywood" tape. i think you saw hope hicks say something in her testimony. she's going to really have to clear up for congress why what she said was true. and why what michael cohen said is a different version. michael cohen obviously is sitting in a jail cell. he has had questions about his credibility for awhile. but he is the only person who has been or will be charged in this issue. and it is just clear that he was far from the only person who was involved or even, you know, approving it. >> very quickly the reason we know that is because we do have texts between cohen and hope hicks. so just quickly to read it, this is actually in print. okay? so the next morning on
>> you'll have to ask michael cohen. michael is my attorney and you'll have to ask him. >> that does not appear to be true. which we knew, but again we're learning it was greater volume now. >> to be clear, we don't know the contents of any of these. the sheer volume of the number of calls that were going on around this, this was all spur bid the "access hollywood" tape. i think you saw hope hicks say something in her testimony. she's going to really have to clear up...
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your office prosecuted michael cohen, and michael cohen was donald trump's lawyer, for lying to this committee about several aspects of the trump organizations pursuit of the trump tower moscow deal, is that right? >> that's correct. >> according to your report, cohen lied to, quote, minimize links between the project and trump, unquote, and to, quote, stick to the party line, unquote, in order not to contradict trump's public message that no connection existed between trump and russia. is that right? >> yes. that's correct. >> now, when you're talking about the party line here, the party line in this case -- >> if i can interject. i should have said at the outset, if it was in the report, consequently, i do believe it to be true. >> thank you. the party line in this case was that the deal ended in january 2016. in other words, they were saying the deal ended in 2016 before the republican primaries. in truth though, the deal extended to june 2016 when donald trump was already the presumptive nominee, is that correct? >> that's correct. >> the party line was also that cohen discussed t
your office prosecuted michael cohen, and michael cohen was donald trump's lawyer, for lying to this committee about several aspects of the trump organizations pursuit of the trump tower moscow deal, is that right? >> that's correct. >> according to your report, cohen lied to, quote, minimize links between the project and trump, unquote, and to, quote, stick to the party line, unquote, in order not to contradict trump's public message that no connection existed between trump and...
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so what we know is that michael cohen is guilty of campaign finance violations. he did it at the urging and with the assistance and for the benefit of donald trump. we have some indication there may be exposure by don jr. and allen wiesel berg on the money side and check-writing side. let me hypothetically compose if there's a conspiracy with all four of these people and we know the southern district cannot charge the president right now because the office of legal counsel memo says you can't indict a sitting president, then it could be the southern district of new york has an interest in bringing one unified conspiracy case against all four possible co-conspirators the day president trump leaves office. i'm not saying that's going to happen. i'm saying i don't think we can jump to the conclusion based on judge pauley's order today there will never be charges brought. >> jeremy bash, let me just play one of the people that has essentially pleaded guilty to his role in this conspiracy testifying to the role and participation of some of the other individuals just n
so what we know is that michael cohen is guilty of campaign finance violations. he did it at the urging and with the assistance and for the benefit of donald trump. we have some indication there may be exposure by don jr. and allen wiesel berg on the money side and check-writing side. let me hypothetically compose if there's a conspiracy with all four of these people and we know the southern district cannot charge the president right now because the office of legal counsel memo says you can't...
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mueller, in 2016, "i have nothing to do with russia. " of course, michael cohen said donald trump was not being truthful, because at this time, trump was attempting to build trump tower moscow. your report does not address whether donald trump was compromised in any way, because of any potential false statements that he made about trump tower moscow, correct? >> that's right. i think that's right. >> director mueller, i want to turn your attention to a couple of other issues. you've served as f.b.i. director during three presidential elections, correct? >> yes. >> and during those three presidential elections, you have never initiated an investigation at the f.b.i. looking into whether a foreign government urnt feared in our elections the same way you did in this particular instance, correct? >> i would say i personally know, but the f.b.i. quite obviously has the attacks such as russia took in 2016. >> now, director mueller, is there any information you'd like to share with this committee that you have not so far today? >> that's a broad question. and it will take me a while to get a
mueller, in 2016, "i have nothing to do with russia. " of course, michael cohen said donald trump was not being truthful, because at this time, trump was attempting to build trump tower moscow. your report does not address whether donald trump was compromised in any way, because of any potential false statements that he made about trump tower moscow, correct? >> that's right. i think that's right. >> director mueller, i want to turn your attention to a couple of other...
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donald trump paid michael cohen to do a criminal. michael cohen is now in jail for said crime. donald trump is the president in the white house. so that's the country we now live in apparently thanks to a legal memo written in 1973 that basically says if you are the president they let you do it. joining me for more on the possible legal questions surrounding the president carolyn lamb form u.s. forefor the southern district of california. and the executive producer of the talking feds podcast. let's start with the counterfactual here, carol. if donald trump is just donald trump, the ceo of trump organize or let's say he lost the election after the same set of facts and now a private citizen, it really -- i'm not a lawyer but it looks like he very clearly is indictable. >> that's right i think you would have seen an indictment. there are enough witnesses here who probably would testify against him certainly michael cohen his close lawyer in the situation. and i think that, you know, the southern district of new york sort of found itself in a check mate situation. they had immuni
donald trump paid michael cohen to do a criminal. michael cohen is now in jail for said crime. donald trump is the president in the white house. so that's the country we now live in apparently thanks to a legal memo written in 1973 that basically says if you are the president they let you do it. joining me for more on the possible legal questions surrounding the president carolyn lamb form u.s. forefor the southern district of california. and the executive producer of the talking feds podcast....
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your office prosecuted michael cohen, and michael cohen was donald trump's lawyer for lying to this committee about several aspects of the trump organization's pursuit of the trump tower moscow deal, is that right? >> that's correct. >> accord to your report, cohen lied to minimize links between the project and trump. and to stick to the party line in order not to contradict trump's public message that no connection existed between trump and russia. is that right? >> yes. that's correct. >> now when you're talking about the party line here, the party line if this case -- >> if i can interject, the one thing i should have said at the outset, it was in the report and i do believe it to be true. >> thank you. the party line in this case is that the deal ended in january 2016. in other words, they were saying the deal ended in january 2016, before the republican primaries, in truth, the deal extended to june of 2016, when donald trump was already the presumptive republican nominee, is that correct? >> that's correct. >> the party line was also that cohen discussed the deal with trump only three t
your office prosecuted michael cohen, and michael cohen was donald trump's lawyer for lying to this committee about several aspects of the trump organization's pursuit of the trump tower moscow deal, is that right? >> that's correct. >> accord to your report, cohen lied to minimize links between the project and trump. and to stick to the party line in order not to contradict trump's public message that no connection existed between trump and russia. is that right? >> yes....
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he was mentioned by michael cohen when he testified before the judiciary committee. he is a moneyman in the trump organization. michael: mentioned him several times -- cohen mentioned him several times. i don't know why they haven't called him up there. it has been three months since cohen was there and they haven't burg yet.isl these professionals like mueller, that is a waste of time. youll be watching anyway guys know what happened with the deutsche bank subpoenas that they were supposed to get trump 's income tax records from them. i lost track of that. host: andrew desiderio, you are shaking your head there. guest: that's right. the house oversight ashley house intelligence committee and the house financial services committee -- house intelligence committee and the house initial services committee one that case, but it is going through the appeals process. we should get a ruling in the next couple of months. it is unlikely the challenge would go to the supreme court, but as of now, the president will lose that case. there is a separate one for maize are partial u
he was mentioned by michael cohen when he testified before the judiciary committee. he is a moneyman in the trump organization. michael: mentioned him several times -- cohen mentioned him several times. i don't know why they haven't called him up there. it has been three months since cohen was there and they haven't burg yet.isl these professionals like mueller, that is a waste of time. youll be watching anyway guys know what happened with the deutsche bank subpoenas that they were supposed to...
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let me by the way michael cohen before he left to jail and michael cohen -- i feel this in my bones. if donald trump gets elected out of office he already said what he was going to do the first time he is going to say it's a fake i'm not leaving. and you say he can't get the military. who knows if the joint chiefs of staff. ible- once again i keep saying- you said he was a dictator. >> where he is acting now. the minute he got elected he thought he was king. he has no knowledge what so far about our procedures. >> we know. >> anything like that but somehow he managed to bend it and got all the flungien and psychofants in the republican party. >> we used to joke there was no russian collusion because he couldn't collude with the staff. moreover when you less those things he is not premeditating that. >> absolutely not. >> he doesn't premeditate. >> there is no dictatorship or anything. >> donny seriously let's acknowledge that donald trump knows what he is doing. >> i think he does he is an evil genius. >> i totally -- >> i didn't say he was stupid i don't think he pre-med tats. >> he
let me by the way michael cohen before he left to jail and michael cohen -- i feel this in my bones. if donald trump gets elected out of office he already said what he was going to do the first time he is going to say it's a fake i'm not leaving. and you say he can't get the military. who knows if the joint chiefs of staff. ible- once again i keep saying- you said he was a dictator. >> where he is acting now. the minute he got elected he thought he was king. he has no knowledge what so...
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donald trump paid michael cohen to do a crime. michael cohen is now in jail for said crime. donald trump is the president in the white house. so that's the country weapon now live in, apparently, thanks to a legal memo written in 1973 that basically says that if you're the president, they let you do it. joining me now for more on the possible legal questions surrounding the question are carol lamb, former u.s. attorney for the southern district of california, and harry litman, former u.s. attorney for the western district of pennsylvania, also the creator and executive producer of the "talking feds" podcast. carol, if donald trump is just donald trump, the ceo of trump org, or let's say he lost the election after this exact same set of facts, and now he is just a private citizen, it really -- i'm not a lawyer, but it really looks like he very clearly is indictable. >> i think that's right. i think you probably would have seen an indictment. there are enough witnesses here who probably would testify against him, certainly michael cohen, his close lawyer in this situation. i t
donald trump paid michael cohen to do a crime. michael cohen is now in jail for said crime. donald trump is the president in the white house. so that's the country weapon now live in, apparently, thanks to a legal memo written in 1973 that basically says that if you're the president, they let you do it. joining me now for more on the possible legal questions surrounding the question are carol lamb, former u.s. attorney for the southern district of california, and harry litman, former u.s....
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our top investigator here, michael cohen, why?ge decided the search warrants, which is previously unsealed. >> sealed. >> made open to the public. previously sealed. he's seen him before. what we're going to get today, the redacted part. >> unredacted. >> unredacted. names will be flamed. we'll have theability to get a narrative as to why the fbi had reason to go into michael cohen's office, home, hotel room and what they were looking on at the time they were working on this. i think we'll get a lot more narrative. >> why would the judge unseal them now? >> press organizations like them to. those are the types of materials that can be unsealed, made public. something we have a right to access and view. we have a right to see them. >> big deal, jeffrey epstein, michael cohen and all things politics. tom winter, thank you so much. thank you for joining us this hour. it wraps us up here. chris jansing, thank you. coming up now, more news with my friend and colleague hallie jackson. >> enjoy your time out west. >>> the chant plenty lo
our top investigator here, michael cohen, why?ge decided the search warrants, which is previously unsealed. >> sealed. >> made open to the public. previously sealed. he's seen him before. what we're going to get today, the redacted part. >> unredacted. >> unredacted. names will be flamed. we'll have theability to get a narrative as to why the fbi had reason to go into michael cohen's office, home, hotel room and what they were looking on at the time they were working on...
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. >> did your investigation determine after very careful vetting of rick gates and michael cohen that you found them to be credible? >> that we found the president to be credible? >> you found gates and cohen -- >> those are areas i won't discuss. >> okay. could you say that the president was credible? >> i can't answer that question. >> isn't it fair to say that the president's written answers were not only inadequate and incomplete because he didn't answer many of your questions, but where he did his answers showed that he wasn't always being truthful? >> i would say generally. >> generally. director mueller it's one thing for the president to lie to the american people about your investigation. falsely claiming that you found no collusion and no obstruction. it's something else altogether for him to get away with not answering your questions and lying about them and as a former law enforcement officer of almost 30 years, i find that a disgrace to our criminal justice system. i yield back to the chairman. >> mr. mueller, thanks for your devoted service to the country. earlier today,
. >> did your investigation determine after very careful vetting of rick gates and michael cohen that you found them to be credible? >> that we found the president to be credible? >> you found gates and cohen -- >> those are areas i won't discuss. >> okay. could you say that the president was credible? >> i can't answer that question. >> isn't it fair to say that the president's written answers were not only inadequate and incomplete because he didn't...
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your office prosecuted michael cohen and michael cohen was donald trump's lawyer for lying to this committee about several aspects of the trump tower moscow deal. is that right? >> that's correct. >> according to your report, cohen lied to, quote, minimize links between the project and trump, unquote, and to, quote, stick to the party line, unquote in order not to contradict trump's public message that no connection existed between trump and russia. is that right? >> that's an -- yes. that's correct. >> now, when you're talking about the party line here, the party line in this case -- >> if i can interject. the one thing i should have said at the outset, if it was in the report, consequently, i do believe it to be true. >> thank you. the party line in this case was that the deal ended in january 2016. in other words, they were saying that the deal ended in january 2016 before the republican primaries. in truth though, the deal extended to june 2016 when donald trump was already the presumptive republican nominee. >> that's correct. >> the cohen deal discussed with trump only three times when
your office prosecuted michael cohen and michael cohen was donald trump's lawyer for lying to this committee about several aspects of the trump tower moscow deal. is that right? >> that's correct. >> according to your report, cohen lied to, quote, minimize links between the project and trump, unquote, and to, quote, stick to the party line, unquote in order not to contradict trump's public message that no connection existed between trump and russia. is that right? >> that's an...
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we're waiting on these documents from the michael cohen case. i don't know what's in them. n yesterday said they won't pursue the case. you are 0 for 1 on the cohen thing we talked about for two years. and the mueller report comes out and there is no finding of collusion on page 1 of the mueller report. no you are 0 for 2. those who continue to go after the president and try to find something so far is just not sticking. what is your view of that today, bret? >> in the mueller case there was no charge of conspiracy and no charge of obstruction. but he had 400 plus pages of suggesting congress could act and that's what we'll see come to the floor next week likely on wednesday. i think on the southern district of new york. they said it would pack a powerful punch with indictments. is it possible other indictments could come down the road? yes, i suppose. this particular case as it relates to michael cohen has come to an end without indictments. the judge ordered unredacted versions of the warrant material that was obtained in the search of michael cohen's office. >> bill: let'
we're waiting on these documents from the michael cohen case. i don't know what's in them. n yesterday said they won't pursue the case. you are 0 for 1 on the cohen thing we talked about for two years. and the mueller report comes out and there is no finding of collusion on page 1 of the mueller report. no you are 0 for 2. those who continue to go after the president and try to find something so far is just not sticking. what is your view of that today, bret? >> in the mueller case there...
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anything that relies on a michael cohen is very weak.looking at a case about whether or not you want to prosecute has to look at the credibility of your chief witness and whatever little shred of credibility he had left was destroyed with his house testimony, with lanny davis sitting behind him and doing nothing to try to salvage the situation. >> laura: let's take a listen now to the president's response to that failed attempt to move an impeachment resolution today on the house floor. watch. >> the united states house of representatives has overwhelmingly voted to kill the most ridiculous project i've ever been involved in, the resolution -- how stupid is that -- on impeachment. >> laura: well, john, is there any point to this besides political theater? this is a total loser for the democrats. the public don't want and impeachment saga to unfold, but nancy pelosi is in a trick box here because she has to kind of mollify those folks on the left of her party who really want blood and they think his comments and the tweet, that amounts to
anything that relies on a michael cohen is very weak.looking at a case about whether or not you want to prosecute has to look at the credibility of your chief witness and whatever little shred of credibility he had left was destroyed with his house testimony, with lanny davis sitting behind him and doing nothing to try to salvage the situation. >> laura: let's take a listen now to the president's response to that failed attempt to move an impeachment resolution today on the house floor....
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prosecutors say these deals were illegal in campaign contributions from lawyer michael cohen to the trump campaign. according to documents the payments were designed to stop that publicity about alleged affairs president trump had with the women. three days after one of the payments a wall street journal article alleged the national inquirer shielded donald trump from allegations by mcdoogal. cohen texted then press secretary campaign hicks. so far i only see 6 stories getting little or no traction. hicks responded saying keep praying it's working lawyer michael avanati who represented stormy daniels says these accuse seegss prove. >> these show orchestrated his criminal conduct to show the 2016 election. >> we are pleased that the investigation surrounding these ridiculous campaign finance allegations is now closed. fox news. >> for more on all this we're joined here in studio by legal analyst michael cardosa. so candidate trump we learned is involved in a series of conversations to coordinate these payments his former lawyer michael cohen is in prison as we speak for violating campaign
prosecutors say these deals were illegal in campaign contributions from lawyer michael cohen to the trump campaign. according to documents the payments were designed to stop that publicity about alleged affairs president trump had with the women. three days after one of the payments a wall street journal article alleged the national inquirer shielded donald trump from allegations by mcdoogal. cohen texted then press secretary campaign hicks. so far i only see 6 stories getting little or no...
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there's nothing else to call it except that's exactly what michael cohen called it, and quietly, in thee of the 40-plus page mueller report, this has been the strongest evidence of a crime by the president. forget russia collusion, forget obstruction of justice, this is the greatest threat to the trump presidency. >> what happens after trump leaves office? is he going to be facing an indictment right away, is there a statute of limitations? >> it's possible. the government has several different strategies to avoid the statute of limitations. and yes eve never dealt with tolling or pausing the statute of limitations while a sitting president is in office if the government believes, as we know it does, that it can't indict a sitting president. it is entirely pos b and always been possible since michael cohen pleaded guilty that this campaign finance violation law crime could be what trump faces his greatest threat from, again, not russia collusion, not obstruction of justice, but these tiny campaign finance law. michael cohen is serving prison time right now for it. >> we also know based
there's nothing else to call it except that's exactly what michael cohen called it, and quietly, in thee of the 40-plus page mueller report, this has been the strongest evidence of a crime by the president. forget russia collusion, forget obstruction of justice, this is the greatest threat to the trump presidency. >> what happens after trump leaves office? is he going to be facing an indictment right away, is there a statute of limitations? >> it's possible. the government has...