. >> host: chris guttman-mccabe, if you would respond to michael copps' statement regarding this report, i cannot ignore some of the darkening clouds over this competition -- >> guest: so i think if you look at, you know, with all due respect to commissioner copps, i think if you focus on one specific area, is the hhi as measured by the fcc getting higher, i think the answer's, yes, and you can't deny that. and yet i think if you look at the other 329 pages of the document, you see an industry that is, for all intents and purposes, violently competitive. you see, again, as i've said, prices going down, you see innovation up. if this, if this were not a competitive industry, um, why would there be 21 billion in capital expenditures in '09 and 25 billion in 2010? you know, why would you see prices continue to go down? matt talks about sort of new entry. leaping metro during this time period when it was measured went from strong providers to pretty significant, you know, larger providers who are working to try to get a national footprint. during the same time period, clearwire jumped into