i saw roger's interview and i saw michael couric�*s interview on the programme last week.epresentatives of other parts of the bbc sitting with me today, whether it's daytime or entertainment or comedy or drama or sport or whatever, they would also... we've tightened our belts, too, over the years. there's very little original programming in parts of daytime, now, for example, on bbc two, and other parts of the bbc have taken some very difficult decisions. these decisions are not easy. the focus on the shift to digital, which the bbc is making a big thing of, there is a concern that you risk losing a very big core and a loyal audience who watch news on tv and they listen to the radio. what do you say to them who say, "look, we're not interested in digital." why do you risk throwing them away? you're totally right. that core audience is so important to us. if you look at the numbers of people who are watching, for example, the big programmes on bbc one live — so the figures are in real time — very often the top two programmes of the day are the regional news at 6:30 and the

i saw roger's interview and i saw michael couric�*s interview on the programme last week.c one, bbc to all the radio networks that people will be familiar with, they're in there for the long haul. we're not taking any of those programmes out of the schedule. we're not taking newsnight out of the schedule. we're moving resources around so that we can keep those audiences satisfied, keep delivering investigations, foreign news, a really important range of stories across the day in short and long form, but also to strengthen our offer for the increasing audiences who are coming to us, for example, online. you'll know people will see the changes to things like newsnight as kind of eventual death by a thousand cuts. and a lot of people are asking, shouldn't the bbc be fighting harder to protect its news output, to challenge the licence fee settlement that's just been announced? you know, journalism is the most important thing, they would argue that makes the bbc unique and valued as public service broadcasters, you need to fight a bit harder for the money. well, i'll make two p