neil: to michael decaucus. that was then. he is joining us now. out of los angeles. (?) i'm sure it wasn't to escape all the snow in his home state. good to see you governor. >> neil, good to be with you. we're out here for our 2020th winter quarter in ucla. neil: i'll buy that one. let me ask you about the -- the -- the chill of hillary clinton gets from the liberal base of your party. do you think that's fair? >> well, look, i consider myself part of that liberal base, and i'm very comfortable with her as a candidate as a nominee, and as a president of the united states. and i think i'm pretty reflective of the so-called democratic base. that doesn't mean she doesn't have to work hard at this. she doesn't have to earn it. and i think she will. but i don't have a problem at all with hillary clinton as our nominee and as our president. and i think i'm fairly representative of the so-called democratic base. neil: you might be right. but we're hearing from a good many in that base who aren't satisfied and maybe for reasons having everything to do with giving hillary clinto