michael defenr, one of the top n the white house.me up with that strategy to tackle what was becoming a major drug problem in the country. she did it very effectively. she did it by reaching out to her hollywood friends and to others. it was very well-produced as a public service campaign and she threw herself into it. just say no to drugs became her theme of that, those years in the first term of the presidency. that said, i think eventually the most consequential contribution will be in foreign policy because it was she who really encouraged her husband to begin talking with what was then the leader of the soviet union after he had been unable to because of the elderly difficult stage of mikal gorbachev's pr soviet empire and along with the military deployments and the rest of the reagan doctrine. that led to the end of the cold war. and the end of -- in 1989, the berlin wall coming down and all the other development that is transformed europe and the world. >> turning away from domestic and international politics with you, andrea,