and we're back and we're really pleased to be joined by michael dell castello he's the lead business reporter at coin desk which is a preeminent publication dealing with these sorts of issues regarding digital currency is on the block j. michael welcome and thank you for being with us it's a pleasure thank you ok let's take this one hundred thousand feet yes what's the most interesting thing you're seeing in this space bizarrely the most interesting thing that i'm watching right now is supplied chain finance that's different from supply chain management which we hear talked about a lot where distributed ledger technologies like the block chain is being used to prove the origin point and movement of products and what we're talking about with supply chain finance on a block chain is being able to simultaneously pay every level of a supply chain. logistics of a moving something a product a physical product from one place to another and tracking that well the finance aspect of that is actually in the payment so what happens now is if you go to a big factory like foxconn that is making ce