i need to get myself somewhere where i can get my head, focus on my case. >> michael draper likes to be in a single cell. not common, but it happens with inmates that don't want to be in, what you'd say a chaos of a dorm, 30-man dorm, whether it's for reasons of fighting their case or just the solitude. but what he does is, when he's about to serve out his disciplinary, he'll create a situation where he gets written up internally, whether it be flooding, whether it'd be verbally abusive to an officer, create a situation where it warrants him getting written up, gets continuous disciplinary. >> draper isn't the only inmate with a history of acting out in segregation. [ bleep ] joshua schilling's recent outburst in his cell, which included banging on the door and flooding the hallway, prompted staff to remove him and place him in a holding cell, pending disciplinary action. >> joshua schilling, he received a write-up for damaging departmental property, being disruptive, stopping of the plumbing -- that's flooding. inmate schilling does that when he gets mad, i think it's 15 times in 12

draper, please by his book. thank you very much. [applause] >> this event took place at the 17th an knew book festival in austin, texas. for more information, visit texasbookfestival.org. >> michael gordon appeared on c-span's "washington journal" about the end game since the occupation in iraq in 2003. it's about 40 minutes, and it's next here on booktv. >> host: been over a year since the last troops left iraq, and look back on the more than 8 years of conflict there, joined by "new york times" national security correspondent, michael gordon, author of "the end game: inside struggle of iraq from george w. bush tobackback." start with the title of the book. what was the end game of last year? >> guest: part of what i wanted to do with the co-author is capture what happened since the surge. there was a number of books on the surge forces in iraq in 2008 and what happened after that, but i was interested in, i think, the real question is what kind of a iraq did the united states leave behind after sacrifice of 145 american lives lost, temperatures of thousands wounded, and hundreds of millions of dollars spent. what was the american policy towards iraq, and what's iraq look like t