. >> michael duggart, right, director. specific question i don't know the answer to and i'm actually very curious when it comes to veterans affairs commission and work. do you see if there are generations of different experiences exhibited in people who are vets and what they face in terms of issues that the veterans affair commission is --. >> yeah, i think there are certainly different generations of veterans and that's just a reflection of history and the different conflicts involved. depending on your experiences maybe some of your experiences as a veteran will be different. there is a consistent need for services, there is a consistent need to address ptsd, i think it's important for the commission to reflect the different generations of veterans. part of that is to facilitate that connecting file between the commission and the veterans community and i think that may be something that maybe supports my application because i do have a connection to this most recent generation of veterans, not just in the fact that i se