i am governor michael dukakis of massachusetts, tell me who you are? >> [indiscernible] mr. dukakis: great, wendy you start harvesting these? startat, when do you harvesting these? about [indiscernible] what,kakis: now this is [indiscernible] >> [indiscernible] mr. dukakis: who are you? >> who am i? i am [indiscernible] and you are mr. dukakis. mr. dukakis: you are the wife of the parks commissioner? >> yes. let me introduce you to my wife. you really have done some great work. how goes it? can i -- have you got some samples? thank you. >> these of the herbs that i grow. great,akis: perfect, good to be here. >> she is the suite one. -- the sweet one. mr. dukakis: i am mike dukakis, how are you? >> that little lady over there. is this getting more and more popular as time goes on? >> yeah, yeah. morning, i amood mike dukakis, governor of massachusetts. how are you? >> everything you see. mr. dukakis: where is your place? where is your farm? >> south of cedar rapids. mr. dukakis: you are selling farm of vegetables, how long have you been selling them? >> making them for the las

he beat michael dukakis in the 1988 general election to become the nation's 41st president. mr. dukakis: how are you doing? >> [indiscernible] mr. dukakis: how are you? hello. >> [indiscernible] >> how long have you been working on it? >> all summer. it has been a thrill. how longe h. w. bush: have you been doing this? >> this is my first year. >> [indiscernible] [applause] >> stand inside the line, please. >> if you could just get back behind the line, please. >> hey, michael. >> there he is. >> michael! [laughter] ♪ we talked to a few people on the parade route, and their reaction to having a vice president in the parade. >> have you ever seen a vice president before? >> not a person, no. >> what was your reaction? friendly.very >> what is the reaction in the town? it has been a longtime since people have been talking about this. >> this is a republican town, they would pretty much go towards him as president. anyone think that a vice president of the united states would come to a small town like londonderry for braid? -- for a parade? >> no. >> thank you so much for your time

next we look back at the 1988 campaign of massachusetts governor michael dukakis, who visited a farmers market in cedar rapids, iowa. governor dukakis finished third in the '88 iowa caucuses but went on to win the democratic nomination before losing to vice president george h.w. bush in the general election. >> had them and my fingers were ripped. >> what did you do? >> nice to see you, hi, how are you? mike dukakis from massachusetts. nice to see you. >> born there. >> whereabouts? what brought you out here? >> like the people, like the country. >> when did you move out? >> the first time about 16, 17 years ago. then we went back to the navy. >> where, where are you? hi, jim. folks from worcester. >> hi. >> this young man grew up in

president bush won the florida primary in 1988 on his way to the republican nomination, defeating michael dukakis to become the nation's 41st president. >> where's george? come on up. also introducing the next candidate is my brother george bush and my daughter noelle bush. our next speaker is a man of tremendous courage, conviction, and experience. i'd like to talk a little bit about courage first. he was the youngest navy pilot in world war ii. he got his wings when he was 19 years old, flew 58 combat missions, has three air medals, including the distinguished cross. his courage and complete disregard for his own safety both in pressing home attack in the face of intense and accurate anti-aircraft fire and continuing in his dive on the target after being hit and his plane on fire were all times keeping with the highest traditions of the united states naval service. also his courage -- his courage has been exemplified throughout his life and most recently another great american patriot oliver north said in describing -- [ cheers and applause ] -- in describing my dad's role in keeping democracy

our guest today is governor michael dukakis of massachusetts, a leading democratic contender for his party's nomination more president. he is serving his third term on beacon hill. his first ended in an election defeat with massachusetts in deep economic trouble. he spent four years at harvard's kennedy school of government emerging to run for governor again in 1982, widely regarded as a changed man. he was elected, re-elected in 1986 and takes credit for what is also now widely heralded as an economic miracle in massachuset massachusetts. welcome. >> good to be here. >> i'd like to start by asking you, a recent poll showed you second with about 17% and showed none of the above with about 43%, why do you think none of the democratic contenders, yourself included has yet broken out of pact and established himself? >> first, let me say with all due respect to the poll takers and publisher who is pay them good money since they will all be obsolete the day after iowa, i would suggest you save your money. these polls don't tell us much except that people recognize certain people and don't

he defeated michael dukakis in the 1988 general election to become the nation's 41st president. [cheers and applause] >> where's george? come on up. introducing the next candidate is my brother george bush and my daughter noel bush. next speaker is a man of tremendous couriers, conviction and experience.

he defeated michael dukakis in the 1988 general election to become the nation's 41st president. [cheers and applause] >> where's george? come on up. introducing the next candidate is my brother george bush and my daughter noel bush. next speaker is a man of tremendous couriers, conviction and experience. i would like to talk a little bit about courage. he was the young us navy pilot in world war ii. he got his wings when he was 19 years old, flew 58 combat missions. he has three are metals, including the distinguished flying cross. his courage and complete disregard for his own safety, both impressing helmet is attack and accurate any aircraft fire and in continuing his that on the target after being hit and his plan on fire were all in keeping with the highest traditions of the united's nails service. [laughter] -- [applause] his courage has been exemplified threat his life. another great american patriot, oliver north said, in describing -- [cheers and applause] in describing my dad's role in keeping democracy in el salvador , he said "his actions were one of the latest things

bush and michael dukakis. saturday afternoon, thomas tudor, on the history of arlington national cemetery, the role and creation of the tomb guard and stories about some of the notable people who are buried at the cemetery. sunday afternoon at 4:00 on reel america, the cbs news special report on the five-week battle of la drang valley. american history tv all weekend and on holidays, too. only on c-span3. >>> hello. this is hillary clinton. i want to thank you for letting me speak with you about an issue that is central to our children's future and critical in our fight to restore this nation's economy, solving our nation's healthcare crisis. >> there is no prescription or role model or cookbook for being first lady. >> the future is created every day. the future is not something that is out there waiting to happen to us. the future is something that we make. >> i have said and i believe that there is a good possibility that sometime in the next 20 years, we will have a woman president. >> hillary clinton expe

bush and michael dukakis. the tomb guard and stories about some of the notable people who are buried at the cemetery. sunday afternoon at 4:00 on reel america, the cbs news special report on the five-week battle of la drang valley.

desaulnier: michael dukakis is a friend. he likes to tell a story about when he was running, people said there was not enough differentiation between the two parties. now there is such an extreme. i prefer the previous. i don't think there is that model of progressive, new republican. we dealt more with solving problems rather than rigid ideology. the basic function of day-to-day operation, which sexy or60 -- isn't too interesting, but that is our main job. >> you studied history at holy cross. what can we learn from history today in washington? rep. desaulnier: we had a great moment with david mccullough, who i just love. he was talking about the wright brothers. he has written so many great books. truman.his book on his book on john adams is a masterpiece. ugh, whatr. mccullo would you advise to us? he said, courage. he said, i think members should be willing to vote on difficult issues that they know are in the best interest of the country, but may not get them reelected. that is a pretty's is synced observation -- sis in

bush and michael dukakis. saturday afternoon at 2:00, thomas tutor, tomb of the unknown soldier on history of arlington national cemetery, role and creation of the tomb guard and the notable people buried at the cemetery. cbs news special report by morley safer with the widow of a combat casualty and enlisted men. american history tv all weekend and on holidays, too, only on c-span 3. all day coverage from washington, d.c. friday it's the 32 nd annual miami book fair. all day coverage begins at 8:00 am eastern, featuring author talks and interviews. saturday afternoon at 3:00, from this year's fall for the book festival at george mason university. robert poole on the plot at arlington cemetery known as section 60 and sunday night at 9:00, attorney roberta kaplan who argued the case united states versus windsor. >> we filed the case. the government always gets a certain amount of time to respond. i got a call from the trial level attorney basically saying we need 30 days. we need time to decide. i'll be honest

and now he sought to define michael dukakis. >> i remember that we were 18 points behind. >> he attacked his opponent over many issues, but most memorably, over a prison furlough release program in massachusetts. >> his revolving door prison policy gave weekend furloughs to those not eligible for parole. while out, many committed other crimes like kidnap and rape and many are still at large. >> it really became the symbol of first, dukakis' permissiveness on the furlough program, and in retrospect, as the years have gone by, become a symbol of the negativity, the alleged negativity of that campaign. >> many called the campaign one of the nastiest ever, but the strategy was working, and bush was gaining on dukakis. bush went on to a solid victory, gaining 53.4% of the popular vote, an amount no president, republican or democrat, has gotten since. only a few days before he took office, he privately took stock of himself and his plan. . >>> all presidents see pivotal world events, but there may have been no more momentous period in the last century than the years george h.w. bush was in off

president bush won the florida primary in 1988 on his way to the republican nomination, defeating michael dukakis to become the nation's 41st president. >> where's george? come on up. also introducing the next candidate is my brother george bush and my daughter noelle bush. our next speaker is a man of tremendous coe,

to lift racial discrimination from the real estate sales. 1988n a brutal campaign in against michael dukakis they referred to as a midget nerd in his diary. when he got to washington, he did everything he could to establish a political culture of consensus. tell me a republican president today he would sign the americans with disabilities act. find me a republican president today. charlie: maybe his son. reasons i call this destiny and power, is he always believed he was the best man for the job. he thought it was a possibility long before a probability. if you believe that, your compromises along the way are not cynical, but instrument to -- instrumental. there is also reagan. charlie: how did he see reagan? was he in awe? for he was against him years and years. opposed him from 1968 forward. barely got on the ticket in 1980. only after the ford deal fell apart. when you think about moments of roads not taken -- let's just say that henry kissinger and alan greenspan had managed to make the deal happen and put a reagan ford ticket, it would have one. neither george bush would have been presi

our guest today is governor michael dukakis of massachusetts. a leading contender for his party's nomination for president. he is serving his third term on beacon hill. his first ended in defeat with massachusetts in deep trouble ly asnown unflattering taxachusetts. widely regarded as a changed man. he was elected, reelected in 1986 and takes credit for what is widely heralded as an economic miracle in massachusetts. welcome, governor. mr. dukakis: good to be here. poll showedgallup jesse jackson first among democrats and you second with showed none of the above with about 43%. you think none of the democratic contenders, yourself included has yet broken out of the pack and establish themselves? first tois: let me say the poll takers and the publishers who pay them, they will all be absently after -- they will all be obsolete after iowa. people recognize certain people and don't recognize others. i'll think the situation is very different from what it has been in presidential election after presidential election. as a recently graduated law stud

. >> bush had redefined himself and now he sought to define michael dukakis. >> i remember that we were8 points behind. >> he attacked his opponent over many issues but most memorably over a prison furlough release program in massachusetts. >> his revolving door prison policy gave weekend furloughs to first degree murderers not eligible for parole. while out many committed other crimes like kidnapping and rape and many are still at large. >> governor dukakis had kept the furlough program alive. >> he really became the symbol of first dukakis' p permissiveness. >> bush was gaining on dukakis. went went on to a solid victory winning with 54.8% of the popular vote, and only a few days before taking office he took stock of himself and his plans. >> the deficit looms horrendous. there's no easy answer. to be kind and gentle we can't double the money. i've got to do the personal things to keep the congress from telling me. i've got to reach out and say here's when heartburn hits fight back fast tums smoothies starts dissolving the instant it touches your tongue and neutralizes stomach acid at

. >> bush had redefined himself and now he thought to define michael dukakis. >> we were 18 points behinde attacked his opponent over many issues but also over a prison furlough program in massachusetts. >> gave furloughs to first-degree murders. many are still at large. >> governor dukakis kept the furlough program alive. >> it really became the symbol of first dukakis's dismissiveness on the program and in retrospect it's become a symbol of the alleged negativity of that campaign. >> many called the campaign the nastiest ever and the strategy was working. bush went onto a solid victory getting 53.4% of the popular vote. an amount no republican or democrat has gotten since. only a few days before he took office he privately took stock of himself and his planes. >> the deficit is looms who republican dense. there's no easy answer. i've got to do personal things to keep the congress -- i got to say here's what i want to do, and i know that you don't like it. what do you think we ought to do? ld on? ♪ hold on for one more day really? hey, i know there's pain. why do you lock yourself up in

one was tactical they were so disappointed in michael dukakis and with his suspense of liberalism and george j. -- h. w. bush that he wasn't selling ideology and he brought willie horton and they promised themselves that they were going to find a candidate that would fight like the dickens and they found up one but they also said how do we look under the hood and make sure that we can update it for the 1990s. >> while also keeping the core ideas. >> so what does this tell us about hillary should she become president would she do the same thing? she's moving as fast as she can. does she have the same ideology that clinton had? >> it's really hard to know where hillary stands and which is running. is it that hillary who in the clinton white house was considered to be one of the liberals but despite their reputations, she was one of the people who turned to bill clinton after 1994 disaster where they lost the congress to the republicans and said we've got to bring in and go back to the center. she was one of the people who understood that were still operating and as the senator she was a

ask michael dukakis. >> you didn't want to wear it. i heard his body man toga lead person who doesn't want to wear a helmet. he understood that wasn't going to be a good television shot. stossel: consultant steve murphy worked with dukakis. >> the answer came back but they will not lay you write a tank without wearing a helmet because it's unsafe. stossel: that moment turned into this commercial. did ads like that really worked? the consultants think they do. they still rave about this ad. it ran only once but it was talked about so much on tv they say it changed all campaigns. it was the first negative ad to use fear and raw emotion. >> these are mistakes we must either love each other or we must die. stossel: vote or die, pretty relevant. but pretty unfair. mark mckinnon worked on the bush campaign which ran this ad showing the candidates consoling 9/11 victims. >> or president took ashley and embraced her and was at that moment that lisa ashley's isil up with tears. stossel: come on this is the presidency. you are playing this music

and now he sought to define michael dukakis. >> i remember we were 18 points behind. >> he attacked hisnents over many issues but mostly over a prison release program in massachusetts. >> his prison policy gave weekend promos to first-degree murderers not eligible for parole. while out, many committed other primes like kidnapping and rape and many are still at large. >> governor dukakis kept the furlough program alive. >> it really became the symbol of first dukakis' permissiveness on the furlough program. and then in wetwrote pekt as the years have gone by it's a symbol of the negativity, the alleged negativity of that campaign. >> many called the campaign one of the nastiest ever, but the strategy was working and bush was gaining on dukakis. he went on to a solid victory gaining 54% of the vote and no president, republican or democrat, has ever gotten that since. only a few days before he took office he privately took stock in himself and his plan. >> the deficit looms horrendous. there's no easy answer. to be kind and gentle, we can't double the money. i've got to do the personal thi

bush and michael dukakis. saturday afternoon at 2:00, thomas tutor on the history of arlington national cemetery, the role and creation of the guard and stories about the people who are buried at the cemetery. sunday afternoon at 4:00 on real america, the cbs news special report on the five-week battle of yadrang valley. american history tv all weekend and on holidays, too, only on c-span3. >>> congress is on its ten-day thanksgiving recess.

the fom former governor of massachusetts, michael dukakis. >> good morning. >> and so you were three-termmassachusetts, and why do you horde the turkey carcass carcasses? >> well, when i was a kid, my o mother used to love the turkey soup as a kid. so when i was married i began to make the turkey soup from our own carcass, and then throwing the carcass caway and i said, hw could you do this? and pi the way, my grand kids love it. i said you have to hang on to it and freeze it if you have to and then turn it into soup. our granddaughter, and our oldest granddaughter who was in washington was talking to matt pfizer who is the writer of the article in the "boston globe," and he called me shortly before thanksgiving and said, are you still collecting the turkeys, and i said, yes. and then throughout the course of the year, i have been making suit. and now, we have had over a dozen carcasses clifr deliverede door. a and so we will have to do something to the community to do something with this and the reaction has been marvelous. >> and 12 carcasses so far and the morning is young and only noo

and now he sought to define michael dukakis. >> i remember that we were 18 points behind. >> he attacked opponent over many issues, but most memorably, over a prison furlough release program in massachusetts. >> his revolveing door prison policy gave weekend furloughs to those not eligible for parole. while out, many committed other crimes like kidnap and rape and many are still at large. >> it really became the symbol of first, dukakis' permissiveness on the furlough program, and in retrospect as the years have gone by become a symbol of the negativity the alleged negativity of that campaign. >> many called the campaign one of the nastiest ever, but the strategy was working, and bush was gaining on dukakis. bush went on to a solid victory, gaining 53.4% of the popular vote, an amount no president republican or democrat, has i office, he privately took stock of himself and his plan. hey amanda, sorry to bother you but i gotta take a sick day. moms don't take sick days, moms take dayquil severe the non-drowsy, coughing aching, fever, sore throat stuffy head, no sick days, medicine. i am t

next, we look back at the 1988 campaign of massachusetts governor michael dukakis who visited a farmers market in cedar rapids, iowa. he finished third in the 808i look caucus is but went on to to the democratic nomination face george h.w. busin

team ran the infamous at about fully horton, the massachusetts inmate who was on furlough under michael dukakisd when he was on furlough raped a woman twice and then never returned to prison. he was caught about a year later and is now serving a life sentence. and still is serving a life sentence. is thet you have there complex of the black for the man within republican politics has not gone away just because will he for his imprisonment, does it mean -- they haven't gone searching in this particular election cycle. they try to make black lives matter, the bogeyman of this election. i think what you have is a failure to make that stick because black lives matter has not actually advocated, as chris christie has said, for any cops to be murdered and it is easily searchable. i think in the digital era, it is hurting them. hings -- fax are at peoples bigger tips more than in the 1980's. you have the mexican immigrant who murdered a woman in san francisco. that did not really take hold in the new cycle. in my piece i recommend they look internally because they really need to deal with ben carson. t

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amazing details including that bush privately referred to his 1988 democratic presidential opponent michael dukakis as "midget nerd." but the bigger muse was bush's scathing comments to biographer john meacham about former vice president dick cheney and former defense secretary donald rumsfeld, two of the key figures in his son george w. bush's administration. cheney built his own empire and asserted too much hard-line influence within george w. bush's white house according to george h.w. bush. while rumsfeld "served the president badly and was an arrogant fellow who wouldn't listen to others." in the book george h.w. bush also criticizes his son, george w. bush, for at times using overly aggressive language as president including when he coined the term "axis of evil." in a statement responding to the revelations w. bush stood by cheney and rumsfeld while cheney told fox news he took george h.w. bush's criticism that he became too hawkish as a compliment. >> i took it as a mark of pride. i think a lot of people believed then and still believe to this day that i was aggressive in defending -- in ca

his father was running against geraldine ferraro and michael dukakis and there wasn't be social mediaen he got in trouble, they him in a lot of photo ops and brought in ted williams who is one of his plows. they made him the guy's guy. and he began to turn that around. but he didn't run against the tsunami of commentary that goes on 24/7. so you know, it's going to be tough for jeb bush i think at this point. we'll have to wait and see. >> one of the things i feel like has made me sort of worse at my job or explaining what's going on, i feel like campaigning doesn't have a predictable effect anymore. having donald trump be at the top of the polls for so long without running any ads, having ben carson have a style of campaigning that doesn't extrapolate to anything else, we were just talking about that chris christie tape we played at the top of the show and how remarkly effective is he in a small room like that. that's usually the sort of thing that translates to big numbers. >> that's not the first time this has happened. remember that ross perot didn't get to where he was with ads.

michael dukakis had the fish rots from the head down, and this is the guy who basically has been retired from politics for a decade. the american political scene has changed dramatically in tone and substance since the last time jeb bush was involved. he has not adapted to it. abby is trying to adapt to it and he can see -- he needs compassion so you shouting into microphones. this is a guy who is more likely john this cycle's connally, spending tons of money, and getting very few delegates despite having a lot of media and establishment. you look at polls and they are very consistently showing that a third of the republican party loan jeb bush. debt when you start with a third of the parties will vote for anybody but you. h that is a problem. only candidate who regularly gets pasted no matter ask.state u.s. -- you maybe you can go a little further with bush because he has not only thelf candidate who might have a foot part of theal republican party and the establishment conservatives, he really has only feet in the literal and most far left of the party. if you look at polling, marco ru

michael dukakis, bill clinton, george w. bush and john kerry, all presidential nominees.n for president just two years after winning reelection for either governor or senator. of course, bush and clinton went on to win the presidency, dukakis and kerry lost. now let's look at a group of nominees who waited four years between runs for office. it's a large group. eight candidates, all waited four years from their last election before being nominated for president. of this group, only reagan and obama proved to be presidential winners. let's move on to a much smaller group, the six-year crowd. two nominees, richard nixon in '68 and jimmy carter in '76. waited six years between their last run for office and the nomination themselves. of course both of them went on to win the presidency. so where does jeb bush fall? remarkably by next year's election it will have been 14 years since jeb bush faced voters. his 2002 reelection in florida and perhaps that's the problem. the ground may have shifted beneath bush or, more specifically, it may have lurched to the right. something he

desaulnier: michael dukakis is a friend. he likes to tell a story about when he was running, people said there was not enough differentiation between the two parties. now there is such an extreme. i prefer the previous. i don't think there is that model of progressive, new england republican. we dealt more with solving problems rather than rigid ideology. it was more the basic function of day-to-day operation, which is into 60 -- isn't too sexy or interesting, but that is our main job. >> you studied history at holy cross. what can we learn from history today in washington in this congress? rep. desaulnier: we had a great moment with david mccullough, who i just love. he was talking about the wright brothers. he has written so many great books. "1776," his book on truman. his book on john adams is a masterpiece. i asked mr. mccullough, what would you advise to us? he said, courage. he said, i think members should be willing to vote on difficult issues that they know are in the best interest of the country, but may not get th

. >> against michael dukakis, who he referred to as a midget nerd in his diary but what happened again he got to washington? he did everything he could to establish a political culture of consensus. tell me a republican president today who would sign the americans with disabilities act. find me a republican president today -- >> rose: well, neighbor his son. maybe, maybe. maybe. >> rose: i mean, nobody -- >> that's right, that's right. but one of the things i call this destiny and power, he always believed he was the best man for the job. people thought he was going to be president, thought it was a possibility long before it became a probability. >> rose: yes. >> if you believe that, then your compromises along the way are not cynical but instrumental. >> rose: i understand that. or machiavellian or whatever. >> but there is also reagan. >> rose: yes. >.how did he see reagan? was he in awe of reagan's political skill? >> yes, yes. that's a good way to put it. you know, he was against him, again, as we say in the south, gen him as we say in the south, opposed him from 1968 forward, bar