excellency, michael dukakis. >> midway through a successful third term as governor of massachusetts,is sees himself as a knight clad in armor made from the american dream. >> we thought that he was in a good place to be running, having served as governor for quite a few years. what he had done in massachusetts was something that would resonate across the country. >> if he were running for president, a haircut with george the greek would mean this little barber shop would be filled with secret service agents. dukakis says it's not an easy decision. >> i'll never forget my older daughter saying to me, dad, very few people have this opportunity. you've got a responsibility to do this. >> thank you all very much. thank you. today a son of greek immigrants named mike dukakis announces his candidacy for the presidency of the united states. >> anyone who has been within six counties of michael dukakis has heard the story of massachusetts, how a run down state with double-digit unemployment became one of the hottest economies in the country. >> dukakis' campaign will be run by his chief of s

>> michael dukakis is assessing the damage to his campaign following the disclosure that two of his topides sabotaged the campaign of rival joseph biden. >> none other than dukakis' supposedly squeaky clean campaign manager john sasso. >> i went to john's office and he was saying that dukakis was going to fire him tomorrow. i was like, what? i knocked on the governor's door and i said this is crazy. what they did wasn't so wrong. you're losing the heart and soul of your campaign. he said i've heard all the arguments, no. >> i spoke to joe biden a few minutes ago on the telephone, and i want to publicly apologize to him for the involvement of my campaign. >> i just thought it was very important that if i was going to win that nomination, i do so in a way that had democrats feeling good about my candidacy and good about my nomination. >> i am here today to announce my candidacy for president of the united states. >> while dukakis is dismantling his team, bush is assembling a gang of political hard men. republican heavyweight james baker, veteran strategist roger ailes, and his campaign ma

-- michael dukakis. jeering] mr. buchanan: where did they find these leaders? no way, my friends. the american people are not going to go back to the discredited liberalism of the 1950's and the failed liberalism of the 1960's and 70's, no matter how slick the package in 1992. [applause] chanting] mr. buchanan: hold it, my friends. [cheering] no, theanan: malcontents of madison square , thens notwithstanding 1980's were not terrible years in america. they were great years. you know it. i not. everyone knows it except the carping critics who sat on the sidelines of history, jeering at one of the greatest presidents of modern times, ronald reagan. [applause] mr. buchanan: remember that time? out of jimmy carter's days of malaise, ronald reagan crafted the greatest peacetime economic recovery in history. businesses and 20 million new jobs. under the reagan doctrine, one was the communist dominoes that began to fall. first, grenada was liberated, by u.s. troops and the u.s. marine corps. [applause] mr. bucha

and that tradition and those values live today in michael dukakis from massachusetts.ichael dukakis knows that this country is on the edge of a great new era, that we're not afraid of change, that we're for thoughtful, truthful, strong leadership. behind his calm there's an impatience, to unify this country and to get on with the future. dukakis's 'instincts' are lauded -- instincts are deeply american, they're tough and they're generous, and personally i have to tell you that i have never met a man who had a more remarkable sense of what is really important in life. and then there's my friend and my teacher for many years, senator lloyd bentsen. and i couldn't be prouder, both as a texan and as a democrat, because lloyd bentsen understands america from the barrios to the boardroom. he knows how to bring us together, by regions, by economics, and by example. and he's already beaten george bush once. so when it comes right down to it, this election is a contest between those who are satisfied with what they have and those who know we can do better. that's what this elec

convicted of crimes going in and out of a sentence,shing their and coming back, suggesting that michael dukakis, the democratic wasnee, was so soft that he putting criminals on the street. amy: let's go to that ad from 1988. yes, it is arguing that michael the caucus was soft on crime. it shows actors for trying prisoners are casually walking in and out of a prison. governor michael dukakis vetoed mandatory sentences for criminals, vetoed the death and ot, -- the death penalty. while out, many committed other crimes like kidnapping and rape, and many are still at large. michael dukakis says he wants to do for america what he has done for massachusetts. america cannot afford that risk. amy: that ad produced by political consultant roger ailes, who went on to oversee the creation of fox news. this was the official ad. and the willie horton ad -- >> coming in from a side group. but the clear, nation of messages -- think about where donald trump came from. people say donald trump is building on things that happen at the republican party. a lot of what happened in the republican party was started by

he beat michael dukakis in the general election with 53% to 45% of the popular vote and served one termpresident, his speech is about one hour. [applause] president bush: thank you very much. thank you. thank you. thank you so very much. thank you very, very much.

he went on to be michael dukakis in the popular vote and turn -- served one term as president.

governor dukakis does not support a reduction in defense expenditures. >> michael barnes led the dukakisd dukakis lose anything at all here? >> no. >> did jackson win anything? >> the goal was to be on the inside with a microphone, rather than on the outside with a picket sign. >> it did not do jesse jackson much tangible good to be on the inside in 1988. but that is hugely the way it goes. i mean, the winner of the primary is the leader of the party, and he or she gets to decide what the party is going to be from there on out. including stuff like the party platform. so considering that history, considering the way it usually is, when bernie sanders did give his endorsement to hillary clinton today, four weeks after the end of the democratic primary, he was able to claim a rare and pretty remarkable achievement, even though its candidacy was ultimately not successful, he did genuinely succeed in moving the democratic party and moving the democratic party's nominee to the left. and on the most important stuff, he got it in writing. >> it is no secret that hillary clinton and i disagree o

at the massachusetts delegation breakfast th presidential nominee michael dukakis. >> it was a spouses group. kitty and hillary were part of that. we've known her for a long time. she's funny. she's warm. >> reporter: clinton hopes she can win over support from bernie saerbackers. >> transformative week for me. i came in thinking not my first choice i'm willing to support behind her and defeat trump. >> i've seen it with others reluctantly resigning themselves to switch over. i haven't made any transitions. >> so you're still -- >> i'm still a bernie supporter. >> reporter: now clinton supporters say they are hoping that one unifying factor in their favor will be fear of electing donald trump. that's the story live from the i'm byron barnett 7 news. >> anchor: now he's saying that he was joking when he to suggest that russia use hillary clinton email.reporters china or russia could get access to clinton's emails he wanted to see them. he said he wanted to work with russia to ght is. along with russia. and then we say let's go get isis. let's go get isis. let's go get isis right now. le

. >> michael dukakis can provide that leadership. al gore. john kerry.a, the next president of the united states! >> reporter: like his 42-minute speech tonight, clinton is not known for being brief. in 1988, the then-governor's 33-minute speech got a roar of applause, only when he announced it was almost over. >> in closing -- [ cheers and applause ] >> reporter: of course, we all wonder what role first gentleman bill clinton will play in the white house, if his wife manages to win in november. on "60 minutes," hillary clinton and her running mate tim kaine alluded to a potential role for the former president. >> senator, you're going to be vice president in a white house with two presidents. >> i mean, it's an embarrassment of riches. >> what do you think of that notion? >> i think it's an all hands on deck time. >> president obama called on the secretary to explain him stuff. i think there are areas he can speak uniquely based on his own circumstances. >> reporter: despite vocal protests and infighting between the sanders and clinton camps, on the con

michael dukakis. the 1988 convention was yours.s one of the bigger mismatches we've seen between vice presidential candidates, lloyd benson, dan quayle. the pick of lloyd benson, take us through it through a candidate's perspective. >> it's one of the thing yz did right. i made a lot of mistakes in 1988. this is one of the things i think i did right. the process we use is one of the most of the democratic nominees since has used. one of the things that happens when you're governor, and i had been governor for ten years at that time, you pick a lot of people. and you realize that 90% of the job is picking excellent people. and so i had gone through the process. i liked putting a team together. and so we spread out net out. we asked anybody and everybody who had suggestions a to who ought to be considered, send them in. kind of narrowed the original field down and maybe 20, 25. then you go out and ask them whether or not they want to be considered. >> do they say no to that? >> sure. yeah, a lot of folks don't want to do it. you know

thank you. ] pplause ♪ announcer: massachusetts governor michael dukakis was considered a longshot byany when he announced his presidency ahead of the 1988 election. he would end up winning the democratic election, beating out people like joe biden, al gore. atlanta is just under one hour. ♪ ♪ applause] music tha ♪ ♪ [applause] mr. dukakis: mr. chairman -- applause] mr. dukakis: a few months ago, when olympia dukakis in front of about a billion and a half television viewers all over the world raised that oscar over her said, [ok michael, " she was not kidding. are -- y and i [chanting] and kitty and i are grateful to her for that wonderful introduction and grateful to all of you for making this possible. this is a wonderful evening for us and we thank you from the bottom of our heart. democrats, my fellow ago when i16 months announced my candidacy for the presidency of the united states, i said this campaign would be a marathon. tonight, with the wind at our at our sides,ends in with courage in our hearts, the race to the finish line begins. [applause] and, we are going to win this ra

you didn't have ronald reagan going after michael dukakis in 1998. bill clinton never mentioned george w. bush in his the convention in 2000. >> i know the system better than anyone else so i'm the only one qualified to fix it, obviously hillary clinton seized on that. a real politico would have looked at that and said this line should not be in this speech, it does come across as crazily self focused and ego maniacal. to hear that in his own words and to be able to throw it back and say america is not about one person who can the fix things, america is about we not about i. that became a true in obama speech and hillary speech and it leaves obama to a critique that could be very powerful. and something that katie is talking about. >> elizabeth warren is here, she's the senior senator of massachusetts this is day 2 of the convention in philadelphia and she made a remarkable speech last night in which she showed her own convictions that made her become elected as senator in minnesota. the democratic party and the campaign for president. did she call y

michael dukakis in atlanta for convention ocratic and the 2004 democratic convention in boston with johnkerry. republican and democratic national conventions, tonight, c-span.n on >> nobel peace prize laureate, survivor and human rights activist died after a prolonged survive of auschwitz death camps. he dedicated much of his life to education and promoting tolerance around the world. romania, he om wrote 57 books including a mem water published the955 in which he recounts death of his father, mother. he was awarded the peace prize 1986. 87.e wiesel was in 2013 he spoke at an event marking the anniversary of the museum in washington, d.c. he called the dedication ceremony for the museum where he president clinton to do something, president clinton, that is, to do something about in yugoslavia located on the national mall across from the washington monument, the pays tribute to the more than six million jews and others who were slaughtered by the nazis during world war ii. event is about 15 minutes. mra[applause] >> president clinton? >> my fellow survivors. of you who are here. oday, in

he went on to beat democrat michael dukakis and served one term as president. the speech is about an hour. [cheering] >> thank you so much. thank you very much. thank you all. much.you very thank you. thank you all, very much. thank you. thank you very much. . thank you -- thank you. thank you, ladies and gentlemen. i have many friends to thank, tonight. i think the voters who supported me, i think the gallant men who entered the contest for this presidency this year and who have honored me with their support, and for their kind and stirring words. i think governor tom kane of new ofsey, senator bill graham , president gerald ford and , president ronald reagan. i accept your nomination for president. i mean to run hard, to fight hard, to stand on the issues and i mean to win. there are a lot of great stories in politics about the underdog winning and this is going to be one of them. we are going to win with the help of senator -- a young forcefulo has a been a voice in preparing the workers of america for the future. born in the middle of the century, in the mi

he went on to be michael dukakis in the popular vote and turn -- served one term as president. the speeches about an hour. [applause] >> thank you, ladies and gentlemen. thank you all very much. thank you so much. thank you, ladies and gentlemen. thank you very, very much. thank you. thank you all very much. thank you so much. thank you. thank you, ladies and gentlemen. thank you very, very much. thank you. thank you all very, very much. thank you. thank you. thank you, ladies and gentlemen. thank you very, very much. i have many friends to thank tonight. i think the voters who supported me. i think the gallant men who entered the contest for the presidency this year and have honored me with their support and for their kind and stirring words, i think governor tom kane of new jersey. [applause] president bush: senator phil gramm of texas. [applause] president bush: president gerald ford and my friend, and my friend, president ronald reagan. [applause] president bush: i accept your nomination for president. [applause] president bush: i mean to run hard, to fight hard, to stand o

michael dukakis in atlanta for the 1988 democratic convention and the 2004 democratic convention in boston with john kerry. past republican and democratic conventions, tonight atd 8:00 .m. eastern on c-span. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corop. 2016] >> and we have more coverage end much the civil war. this is about an hour and 15 minutes.

nominatedhe party michael dukakis, a pragmatic liberal from massachusetts.is year we got a socialist and bernie sanders, who was the runner-up, so the party is much more to the left when bill clinton tried to bring it back. clinton nominated by a party further to the left, not putting up any kind of fight. clinton's mainy advisor if he could name one area where she was violating liberal orthodoxy. he could not come up with one. she has gone with a party to the left. that tells a lot. >> i want to go back to the point of unity in the party. floor of the dnc, hillary clinton suspended the roll call and released her delegates to the president. with all this jeering and booing, what should bernie sanders do for the sake of unity? ofagain, to be clear, a lot the jeering and booing when away by the time we got to prime time. it was raucous at the beginning, then quieted down considerably. they're still have been some protests in philadelphia today, but we don't know yet what will happen on the floor tonight. bernie sanders has a plan whereby he will release his de

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michael dukakis had a 7-point lead going into the summer.ut hillary's lead is starting to shrink and disappear across the board. charles: the moral of the story is don't wear a helmet and get on the tank. other things in this fox news poll. i was shocked at the distance. hillary with a 10-point lead in colorado, a significant lead in virginia. and, listen, they say she has got temperament and is qualified and they say she is a strong leader. that overshadows the honestly and trustworthiness issues. >> what is shocking about the poll, she and donald trump are neck-and-neck on honesty. here is a woman who clearly lied to the world. you have to take these things somewhat with a grain of salt. we'll have to see what happens. but this certainly is a good poll for her, and the quinnipiac is a good poll for trump. charles: there are other polls, too, i think nbc squall street journal had a poll in pennsylvania showing something different there. mark, when these polls come out, you have been like cool hands luke, no big deal. you understand at some

michael dukakis came out of his convention ahead at 17 points and he had a terrible campaign.ampaignalso the bush attack on him. jonathan: their approaches to that silent majority. their wide swaps in the middle class that have been left behind. and his appeal on the system is rigged, we have had terrible trade deals, these are not traditional republican messages. charlie: his daughter introduced him in a very interesting speech. she talked about pay equity, a lot of issues people thought were quality issues. jonathan: all the issues you would expect from the democrats. todaye: and we talk about because of the nature of his speech. jonathan: i think every line in that speech, it was not about her father -- charlie: there's also this sense the family did very well. the father and the mother as well have to take some credit. >> that speech was -- jonathan: that speech was interesting because that was a very political speech. that was a speech that i thought could have been given by paul ryan. except better delivered. could have been a keynote speak. little ronald reagan in there

you know, i ran into michael dukakis this morning -- remembers his speech then as the best speech of his life. that is the goal here. >> that is the goal. and david muir, what a big job she has to do. i talked about this at the top of the program. 60% of the country don't trust her. she's got to bring that number down. >> a massive trust deficit, she talks to a welcoming room here, but she's really talking to the millions across this country many of whom made up their minds about hillary clinton long ago. almost a year ago, george, she sat across from m e-mail server. the first time she said that. she would later learn that would be far from enough to take care of the issue. i was struck by something she wrote in her own memoir. she said, in our political sure, saying you made a mistake is often taken as a weakness, when it can be a sign of strength and growth and i'm curious if we'll hear that word tonight. >> it's a good point you bring up. let me bring this to you, ways and some times because she hasn't trusted people. >> big part of the problem is lack of transparency, and some a

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michael dukakis made the mistake of wearing a mhelmet in a photo on a tank. >> he didn't want to wearheard him say he didn't want to wear a helmet. he understood that was not going to be a good television shot. >> the consultant worked with dew caucus. >> you cannot ride without a helm helmet. he relented, should have stuck with the instincts. >> that turned into this commercial. >> now he wants to be our commander in chief. america can't afford that risk. >> duh he lost in a landslide. bob came up with great lines like this one. >> when he ran mondale's campaign. he saw this ad. >> where's the beef? >> wendy's trying to convince people their burgers had more beef. >> some places give you a lot less beef on a lot of bun. >> where's the beef? >> you were home watching tv with your girlfriend, and you saw this ad? >> yeah. i saw the ad, and it was my girlfriend who said to me, you know, that reminds me of gary hart. what's he about? it clicked. >> so they used it in a debate. >> where's the beef, you know? >> wendy's spent hundred million dollars on ad campaigns to give me an opening fo

romney to get 59 1/2% of the white vote, a high number, was george hur better walker bush against michael dukakis. and mitt romney lost and electoral landslide as the country demographics have changed. george herbert bush, and important election the one out of the last six where the republican candidate won the popular vote. very difficult mathematicsly for a republican candidate for president to win a presidential election with much less than 40% of the hispanic vote. >> right now, he's at 14%. >> right now, he's at 14. john mccain was down to 32. mitt romney to 37, cut in half again, historically post civil rights act, the republican pa y parties performed 9, 10% of the african-american vote. you see that vote coming down very quickly to that level. >> here's dave clarke, milwaukee county sheriff. we've been watching mike pence in the family box. leather li let's listen in. [ applause ] >> thank you. ladies and gentlemen, i would like to make something very clear. blue lives matter in america! [ applause ] >> i stand before you tonight with a heavy heart as the law enforcement community prepare

michael dukakis with the 1988 democratic convention. and the 2004 democratic convention in boston with john kerry. past republican and democratic conventions tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span. of the text, johns hopkins university history professor francoise furstenberg talks about five aristocrats that fled the revolution in the 1700s and settled in philadelphia. french influence on the then american capital and the relationships these men formed with political figures of the early republic. furstenberged mr. at the 20 16th annual meeting of the organization of american historians in providence, rhode island. this is about 15 minutes. >> francoise furstenberg. your book, "when it united states spoke french," focuses on five aristocrats. who were they? these are upper-level aristocrats from the highest level of french nobility. called of them were liberals who had participated in the early stages of the revolution in france until it became too radical for them and were forced to flee the country. for the five i focus on, all of the

president he gave what was considered one of the most disastrous convention speeches in 1988 when michael dukakis where the crowd roared approval when he said "in conclusion" he doesn't want to do that tonight. he wants to, as charlie said, the hillary clinton that only he can know. what is interesting is how much the party has changed, nafta which he supported bushed through. a very different party, in a very different place on trade, criminal justice issues also the party much more liberal. how the bill clinton years got video playing now to remind everybody about bill clinton. how much those were part of the democratic world. >> pelley: thanks very. bob schieffer, bill clinton's favorability ratings were higher than his wife. >> schieffer: the spouse is usually higher than whoever is running for office or is in office. i think the main problem that hillary clinton has to overcome, i'll be interested to she how bill clinton goes about this, is how does she convince people that she can be trusted. her unfavorability ratings are extraordinarily high. she's got to figure out some way to get by tha

she's probably the weakest democratic nominee since michael dukakis, but trump is not by any measure the strongest republican nominee in recent memory. so we have really as carl just pointed out this protracted, very ugly battle between two nominees who are not exactly the heartstrung favorites of either their own parties or the broader electorate. it's going to be pretty heinous. >> mm-hmm. larry sabado is predicting, austan, that she's probably going to get a four, maybe five-point bounce out of this convention, that trump -- he says the median bounce he got was three points, but he had been on a good trajectory even going into the rnc. and his point is if she can get a four-point bounce or five-point bounce and hold it, she's likely to win. do you think she's going to get a four or five-point bounce? >> i don't know. i'm not an expert on polling. i know the reasons the conventions were early this year was because the olympics are coming. so we'll probably kind of go into a holding pattern as people pay attention to the olympics. and traditionally everybody kind of focuses their at

she worked on the jesse jackson campaign, the michael dukakis campaign.he was the first african-american campaign manager when she did that job for al gore. she is now the dnc vice chair, but she'll be the interim chair of the party as debbie wasserman schultz steps down at the close of this convention. she told stephen colbert in 2008, look, i'm a woman, so i like hillary. i'm black so i like obama, but i'm also grumpy so i like john mccain. >> she spoke emotionally yesterday what it was like when the jesse jackson campaign came to an end and it became time to move on. a break here. we'll be back at the top of the hour. we're just getting started on our live coverage from philadelphia. >> big night tonight. >> it's the same poem -- >> as we take a look at the students from the eagle academy on stage in philadelphia. we're going to go down to chris matthews. they're going to do the invictus prayer.

pennsylvania has not voted for a republican since 1988 in the landslide george bush victory over michael dukakis. >> jon karl, thank you very much. great to have your analysis. join jon and our powerhouse political team this morning on "this week." see the entirety of the headlinemaking interview between chief anchor george stephanopoulos and donald trump. that's later this morning, right here on abc. a and jon, thanks again. jon will come back for a -- "pop news" later this morning. >> we'll see. we'll see. >> it's the pop-litical "pop news." >>> speaking of encores, rob is back. hey, rob. >> hey, good morning, guys. we'll start with the west coast. they're dealing with the forest fires. this one near big sur in monterey county. >>> good morning. meteorologist amy freeze with to need rain gear today. showers and thunderstorms at time. flash flood watch to 11:00 tonight. 81 today. tonight scattered showers in the area. 71 is the low. the accuweather seven-day forecast, now we do clear the showers late monday night. tuesday, wednesday, thursday are dry. we heat up with humidity for friday and sat

races can change just as michael dukakis, but june matters.ck. >>> i have a policy question for you, sir. >> let's see if he answers it. >> i it. >> i will. don't worry about it. don't worry about it. don't worry about it, little marco. i will. >> let's hear, big don. >> don't worry about it, little marco. >> let's just say it had a lot of theater. according to some folks, it didn't have a lot of substance. actually, according to me and others. a lot of us didn't think they were substantive. in the general election the commission on presidential debates is trying to do whatever they can to tailor the rules so we can actually get substance. they have announced the formats today. the first and third presidential debates will have six segments at 15 ints each with topics decided by the moderator and the two candidates will go at it. the second will be a town hall format. they get two minutes to respond with a one minute discussion to follow. mix of both town hall people and moderator get to ask questions. we will talk more about this with the two

it indirectly yesterday showed what an adequate at best campaign or she is and really, she's michael dukakis with huge ethical problems and she has about a five point lead in the race as of polls taken recently but it wouldn't surprise me in the week that she's had and if donald trump has a halfway decent run at the convention, at the end of that convention trump is going to be tied ordinarily ahead and the question is whether hillary can pull back into the lead with her convention but she's an extraordinarily weak candidate, there's no doubt about it. jon: rich lowry from the national review, melinda henneberger from rollcall, thank you. melissa: new information on the department of veterans affairs , two years after the wait time scandal as new reports finds there are still quote, profound deficiencies when it comes to veterans health care and a congressional panel says the va requires urgent reform. kristin fisher is live at the white house with more on this one, kristin? reporter: this commission essentially confirm what we already knew, that the veterans health administration suffers fr

helped take him from a 17-point deficit coming into the convention to a significant lead over michael dukakis that was never lost in the fall. >> nicolle just mentioned she felt like the last three days of this convention have opened some ears around the country to people who might otherwise not think of themselves as democrats or might not think of themselves as people who are inclined to support hillary clinton. do you think that's true? do you think that the way they sort of paved the runway leading up to this speech tonight will have some people listening to her who before this week, maybe wouldn't have even planned to tune in? >> the oppositional virtue to trumpism as it was defined by the president last night is i would say is americanism. so this is an unusual election. we don't see necessarily the usual idealogical contrast or contrast on the basis of issues. they are trying to isolate donald trump as an aberration in our public life and they are going after him in a really tough manner. they are saying he's unstable. they are saying he's unfit. he can't be trusted at a mental fitness