nothing about, and go out -- i spent a number of wonderful years with -- it was barry diller, michael eisner, jerry katzenberg. then i went on and left there and said it's enough of that. louie mile became a great friend. i remember i was editing one of his scripts once. again, it's like being somewhere i know nothing. he said, franz, you don't know shit. and we became great friends. i had no idea what i'm doing. but editing the miles script. i loved it. i left. i said, this is wonderful. and headed off to australia because there was a lot of young, interesting, dynamic film makers coming out of australia. i thought it would be fun. then we came across a story that eventually became gallipoli. i had to get money. i had to get financing. i got money from -- still alive. a guy named bob stigwood. he produced "saturday night fever," "grease." he said go find the rest of the money. i went to australia and found this little newspaper man who owned a bunch of newspapers. he thought movies were frivolous, totally frivolous because he was a newspaper man. i knew something that he knew but we never t