to washington, d.c., to speak with michael eric dyson, the author of "what truth sounds like: rfk, jameswin and our unfinished conversation about race in america." michael l eric dyson is aa professor of sociology at auor of many books.ty and thee welcome back to democracy now! it is great to have you with us. >> always great to be here, amy. amy: talk about were you begin the book with the martyrs and you place it at dr. king's funeral. >> that's right. i begin they're talking about soaking the soil of reality. and from that soil of brutality, of death and of tragic and traumatic separation from these figures, these icons, who informed our values, our visions, our virtue of american democracy. i wanted to talk about how their deaths, martin is looking junior, john kennedy, before his, robert kennedy's after his, was a kind of traumatic trilogy, transformative deaths that made american the use and ideals and struggles for justice that much morere plain, that much more time,le and at the same it seems that much more distant because if we were willing to kill these men for various reasons

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and michael eric dyson joins us now. michael, i want to read you something we heard today. i wonder if this is what truth sounds like. this is written in the middle of melania trump's written statement today, which said only this about the children she met today. she said, the children were eager to learn and were kind and in good spirits. is that what truth sounds like on our southern border tonight? >> not at all. that sounds like anesthesia. that sounds like addiction to forgetfulness. that sounds like trying to paper over a volcano of hurt and pain and trauma that these children are enduring. can she imagine her own beloved son being subject to forcible separation from his mother or his father? this is the politics of unempathy. this is the denial of the humanity that binds us together. and to have such a statement,

i want to talk about this now with michael eric dyson, a prof of sociology at georgetown university, hor of "what truth sounds like, rfk, james baldwin, and our nished conversation about race in america." good evening, michael eric dyson. good to see you. so 's law works like this. if you don't vote within two years, the state sends a letter to check if you are still registered and your information is up to date. if the voter skips a few elections or doesn't respond to the notice within four years, they're kicked off the roster. what's the problem with this law? >> well, theroblemdon, that it discourages people from exercising their right to vote when they see fit when the burden of proof should be on a government to provide a slate of candidates who are compelling. what about if you say, okay, for the last election that was kind of wack, this next election, so so. but the next one after it, yes, i want to vote. only in america do we have this kind of insanity where we don't have universal registration same day, where we don't have a special holiday to celebrate so that everyone can v

michael eric dyson argues in his new book what truth sounds like.en dance shows that far from being a marginal player in whiteness, trump is the logical extension of american ideas. because the white refusal to accept obama's legitimacy -- >> tracing these key moments in the civil rights struggle. and he follows the truth of the experience brought to white america. >> i don't know what most people in this country feel. i don't know whether the labor unions and their bosses really hate me, that doesn't matter, but i know i'm not in their unions. i don't k if the real estate lobby is against black people. but i know they keep me in the ghet ghetto. i don't know if the board of education hates black people, but i know the books they give my children to ride and the schools we go to. you want me to make an active faith risk my life, my wife, my children on some idealism which you're sure exists in america, which i am never seen. >> applies today, dyson writing baldwin was addressing the nation on an outsidetrack. the white power structure on an inside t

michael eric dyson, author of "what truth sounds like."in america. what strikes me about this is this is the discussion that many people in the philadelphia eagles, just to name a few, want to be having right now. to look at this and say, hey, you can't ignore this. pay attention to this. malcolm jenkins held up a sign that said you aren't listening. and this is happening in mesa, arizona. >> right. absolutely right. that's a very sharp contrast you draw and an appropriate one here. silt not about the flag. it is not about the anthem. it is not about disrespect for america. as malcolm jenkins said, we are true patriots. we believe in the beauty and the power of america, the idea that continues to lure us forward to build our nation to the best that it can become. in the meantime, he is using his platform, his privilege, and his celebrity to focus an issue that the president of the united states should be focusing on. and all good americans of conscience should be focusing on here. this proves again that despite all the brew that that, desp

michael eric dyson. we should note, this just hit "the new york times" best seller list. with d congratulations, dr. dyson. >> always great to be here. >> michael, as you know, breed part of this wave candidates of color now running for office. how do you explain the trend? >> i think it is a simple factor here. african-american women have voted for the best future of this nation. think about it. 54% of eligible white women voted for donald trump in the last presidential election. better than 90% voted for hillary clinton. doug jones, rose to office in alabama on the support of black women. black women candidates, black women voters across this country have made a huge difference. so why not leverage that authority? why not leverage that influence? why not leverage that political power and muscle to the advantage of african-american women who seem to be more progressive, open-minded, more liberal, more willing to try new things to make sure that the persistent crises of our nation are addressed. so i think it is a payoff for their extraordinary commitment to politics. >> y

michael eric dyson, your six minutes starts now. prof. dyson: thank you very kindly.onderful opportunity to be here in canada. thank you so much. i am going to stand here at the podium. i'm a preacher. [laughter] and i will ask for an offering at the end of my presentation. [laughter] this is the swimsuit competition of the intellectual beauty pageant, so let me show you the curves of my thoughts. [laughter] oh, my god, was that a politically incorrect statement i just made? how did we get to the point where the hijacking of the discourse on political correctness has become a distinction between us and them? the abortive fantasy just presented is remarkable for both its clarity and the muddiness of the context from which it has emerged. what is interesting to me, is that when we look at the radical left, i'm saying where are they at, i want to join them? they ain't running nothing. i'm from a country where man stands up every day to tweet the of hisendacity viciousness into a nation he has turned into his psychic commode. [laughter] [applause] y'all got justin, we got

. >> coming up sunday morning, georgetown university professor michael eric dyson talks about race relations in the united states, and his book, "what your go nds like and andrew seeley and his book, the forces driving mexico and the united states together. the author of president, vice president, and pursuit of power. watch washington journal live at some of the clock eastern sunday morning. join the discussion. ♪ >> the c-span buses traveling across the country on our 50 capitals tour, the buses on its stop in juneau, alaska, asking what is the most issue -- the mostska important issue facing alaska? oile are used to money coming in and as a result of lower oil prices we are not getting that revenue. there are other revenue streams but it doesn't seem to be happening very fast. i think there are political reasons why people are afraid of implementing taxes, but without additional revenue coming in, the alaskans are facing a lot of crisis and a lot of areas. one is the opioid and substance abuse crisis. the more power economy goes down, the more people get upset and aren't living their live

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michael eric dyson. his new book "what truth sounds like: rfk, james bald win and our unfinished conversation about race in america." in it he writes, quote, by the time he perished, robert kennedy had become known as a racial healer, even a prophet of sorts and ironically a witness for the invisible poor. his martyrdom made him more in death than he had in life. his death brought him closer to an image of the racial ombudsman he had aspired to be. a meeting with a few angry black folk more than 50 years ago taught him a valuable lesson about listening to what you don't want to hear. it's a lesson we must learn today if we are to overcome our differences and embrace a future as bright as our dreams allow. and his dreams, he had those same dreams, joe. >> yeah, he did. and michael, the story of bobby kennedy, we were talking earlier, about his growth. especially in those final two years of his life, extraordinary growth. he made those tough phone calls to southern governors, to integrate, as his brother's

joining me is michael eric dyson, the author of "what truth sounds like."gay is with me as well, contributor to the "new york times" and author of "not that bad." roxanne, you wrote this week about the cancellation of roseanne's show in round two. you said it was the kind of thing roseanne barr has been doing online for years and then this time it was cancelled. what made this time different, when you look at her body of work i guess you can call it on twitter, what do you think was different this time around? >> i think this time she was back in the public eye so people were paying more attention to the kinds of things that she's saying andattention. abc simply couldn't enjoy the painful truth they had long known about and had to do so. >> i want you to react as well. you saw the stir it created ant the action taken. it makes one wonder about the longevity of something like that. there was in that flash a conversation about what she wrote in the tweet. how does it continue? >> first of all, i think, as roxanne said, the archive alpossibility of twitter, in

our guest is michael eric dyson. our caller from north carolina, democrats line. thanks for being with us. caller: mr. dyson, it's all well and true what you say, but when president obama was in time you said all your -- spent all your time bashing now. now, we buy groceries. we don't own no grocery store. we own nothing. we run and bag somebody else. we drink coffee. still going to star scombucks drinking that nasty coffee? start our own coffee shop. we contribute 1.7 trillion dollars to the economy of this country, 95% is spent with someone else. and nothing is spent with us. we own nothing. so if we send our kids, our boys, our sons can play football anywhere they want to play. but when our daughters, a plus daughters get ready to go to college, they have to get affirmative action. we got all these black schools, stop sending our boys playing in big white schools and keep them our neighborhood, and we won't have this problem. host: thank you. guest: well, i'm glad you joined me with those great figures. but i notably dissented, sir. if you read my latest book, "

. >> joining us now, shannon p pettipiece, reporter for bloomberg news, and michael eric dyson of georgetownrsity is the author of the new best seller "what truth sounds like." there you see the book jacket right there. shannon, let me start with you. three red state democrats who voted for the first court nominee, neil gorsuch, who is the state court justice. three of them are up for reelection this year in states that donald trump won pretty impress civively impressively. they voted for neil gorsuch. how much pressure are they under this time? >> a lot of pressure, and i think this is a potential for leadership threat. you can really tighten the screws on these members in these red-leaning states to fight, fight, fight with all they've got against this pick, which is what the democratic base really wants. there is a lot of enthusiasm from the democratic base to fight on this one. but you risk losing them for every other legislative issue you might want to have between now and the next election. so do you risk joe manchin not being in the senate and having a republican there instead so you

. >> joining me now michael eric dyson, professor at georgetown university also author of more 20 bookstest "what truth sounds like, robert f. kennedy, james baldwin." i want people to know you're also a preacher. what do you make of the attorney general's interpretation of roman's 13 in the bible. >> he needs to go back to seminary. he's never been there, so he needs to begin. this is a vastly wrong m misinterpretation of the bible. that was used to justify, and make valid slavery. we were told not to oppose the government because the government was for the establishment of slavery. and as a result of that, god ordained it. if god made the law then one had to defer to the law. so this misuse of scripture is certainly that conservatives have done over the last year to justify and legitimate an administration that they would be opposed to some behavior. atrocious behavior of the president in office. the atrocious misuse by jeff sessions to use that as the basis of any biblical effort. why didn't he quote joshua or amos let water run down like a mighty stream. here is cherry picking of a

. >>> with me to discuss the policy, the protests, michael eric dyson who is the author of the new booknds like." also joining me cornell brooks, the former president and ceo of the naacp. thanks to both of you, great to see you both. >> good to see you. >> michael, you first because, you know, america has seen this before, whether it's the dehumanization of people or the power of protests. >> right. >> which one in this case really might most determine the outcome? >> well, i think that the common identification with people across ranges of ethnicity, of color, of sexuality that woman eloquently talking about hopelessness as a tool of tyranny is absolutely right. in cabal of tyrants about which she spoke. i think that it's incredibly important to understand that people are identifying with people because they understand we could be next. there is nobody who is safe or protected from the bigotry and from the resistance to humanity that this president has events and that people in his administration. it has trickled down so that they have been emboldened, not only people in his administr

if you check us how monday, legendary reporter seymour hirsch is with us as well as michael eric dysonut his new book. "the 11th hour with brian williams" starts now. >>> tonight a picture and a very large letter worth a thousand words. the north korea summit is back on after an oval office meeting with kim jong-un's deputy while some experts openly fear donald trump is being taken for a ride all the way to singapore. >>> late word tonight the next summit might be with vladimir putin according to "the wall street journal." >>> plus a warning from a former attorney general. buckle your seat belts as trump wages war on justice and his attorney general. >>> and the secret the president apparently couldn't keep. the problem is it's the kind that moves markets. "the 11th hour" on a friday night begins now. >>> and good evening once again from our nbc news headquarte

hirsch is with us as well as michael eric dyson to talk about his new book. "the 11th hour" with brian williams starts now. >>> tonight a picture and a very large letter worth a thousand words. large letter worth a thousand words. the north korea summit is back on after an oval office meeting with kim jong-un's deputy while some experts openly fear donald trump is being taken for a ride all the way to singapore. >>> late word tonight the next summit might be with vladimir putin according to "the wall street journal." >>> plus a warning from a former attorney general. buckle your seat belts as trump wages war on justice and his attorney general. >>> and the secret the president apparently couldn't keep. the problem is it's the kind that moves markets. "the 11th hour" on a friday night begins now. >>> and good evening once again from our nbc news headquarters on a friday night here in new york. day 498 of the trump administration, and the president said today the june 12th north korea nuclear summit is back on. he had canceled it just a few days back, and there

watch this as college professor and professional shake down artist michael eric dyson show us how it's this is msnbc last night. >> we have a bigoted chief and racist in residence. that's what it is. he has unleashed some of the most horrendous viewpoints, bigotries and racism in this country. he has legitimated them, validated them. he said look, it's okay. come out the closet. come out and speak straightforwardly and tell the world what you believe. >> tucker: we lower our standards. it's unbelievable. i know we all hate trump. but so stupid. not stupid is mark steyn who joins us tonight. what do you make of this? i feel like -- you know, i don't want to overstate and i don't want to be historicahysterical like they a. they are melting down it looks like to me. >> yeah. i think that's what's going on, tucker. i mean, we live in a coarsened culture. and everybody has said that. i think one of the reasons why samantha bee, for example, used the c-word is that the f-word has been drained of its power. it was -- when i believe it was ken kinan who first said the f word on the tv in the b

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he is award-winning writer, scholar, rod koester, on npr and sports networks across america, michael eric dyson., not. -- meon up. michael, debating partner is also an award-winning author, she is a columnist at the new york times. and someone who will bring a very distinctive and powerful perspective tonight. michelle goldberg, come on out. so, one great team of debaters deserves another. and arguing against the resolution, be it resolvedha you call political rrectness i call progress. is the emmy award-winning actor, screenwriter, author, playwright, journalist, poet and tonight's debater stephen fry. stevens teammate a prsor of psychology at the university of toronto and a youtube sensation. the author of the big new international the seller, 12 rules for life, ladies and gentle -- gentlemen, toronto's jordan peterson. [ applause ] we will get the debate underway momentarily. a quick checklist. we have a hashtag tonight, hash at munk debate. those of you in the hall and those of you watching online, please weigh in and let's get your opinions going. also for those of you watching online righ

. >> this morning, georgetown university professor michael eric dyson discusses race relations in theunited states. then, the president of the migration policy institute talks about u.s.-mexico relations. and later, author and

michael eric dyson explores how morality and ethics had impacted racial injustice america. and in first in line new york times best-selling author examines the lives of 13 modern vice presidents. also being published this week the former deputy national security adviser. the world as it is. and friend ami's they look at the impact of the digital age and the advertising industry. bob shank discusses balancing faith in politics in his book costly grace. the murder trial that helped propel abraham lincoln to the presidency. in the last trial. look for these titles in bookstores. watch for many of the authors in the near future. so you're probably wondering how this all started i mean writing about a book this has been a dream of mine especially a children's book. and with my dad. it's really fun. i wanted to talk a little bit about marlon in general a lot of people ask how long we had have him how old he is and when we got him without we let him rest up. i got marlon when i was suddenly --dash -- setting in college. as was said. i have a short film and it needed a bunny in it.

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i think that me and michael eric dyson, going back and forth on the history of activism and where it is now. a lot of times, we would be comparing things that people like to do as far as the nature of the activism in the 60's versus the activism of now. they put me in a different category. you were somebody who always used your voice, always spoke a throwback like athlete to the 60's. what's going on with your counterparts? and i would point out to the different athletes who were speaking out. but now you have this resurgence after trump and all of these .olice cases but if you go back to two years ago, it was not as much speaking out in the athletic world as a whole. so we kind of went back and forth. a great debate. i love debating with him, and he doesn't mind, so i think that was great. i interviewed a lot of people, and it up interviewing 49 or 50 different people, from athletes, commentators, to the family of the victims of police brutality. i really wanted to encourage young athletes to continue to use their activism, to use their voices. , he was watching lebron james and car

participants include george town university sociology professor michael eric dyson, new york times columnist michelle goldberg, actor stephen price and clinical psychologist jordan peterson. the event was moderated by month debate director rudyard griffith. this program contains language that some of you viewers might find offensive. >> they operate better -- [ multiple speakers ] matt barack obama has systematically rebuilt the trust of the world and our willingness to work through the security council. >> you must not talk tobo in thrld, any of the al. >> whatever you call this, i mafia state or a futile empire, it is a disaster for ordinary russians. >> it started with th