let's go to michael farr, and author of "the arrogane cycle" okay, i don't disagree jeff that the fed is important and the fed has of course been a tail wind for stocks, but i want to note if you go all the way back to the bottom of the the market which was in march of 2009. the s&p 500 is up 99.5%, call it 100%, call it a doubling. now, it's more than coincidence that earning are up 103%, almost the identical number and by the way that does not even include the most recent numbers, but the stock market is up 103%, i ask you who is more important, the fed or profits? >> clearlily, they have a 1-1 relationship, between the profits and what we have seen in the stock market. valuations you would have thought, you would have seen pe's rise, but this is all about profits. and if you take a look at what the fed has done, they may have helped to avoid a disaster or back stop some of the financial system, but it's not like the money that they pumped into the system has resulted in huge growth in the money supply that is stimulating the economy. so there's a break in the link there from going