and, you know, my first question would be, why father michael flagler. why is he the perfect subject for a biography? >> well, i've asked myself that same question since i started on the book. but actually there's a pretty good reason. before i got into reporting i was a chicago catholic priest and my second assignment as a priest was associate pastor at st. sebina church on the far south side of chicago. and that was from '64. anyone from here in the church. >> my grandmother. >> what was her name? >> jennings. >> i remember the jennings part. anyhow, when i got there, the church was one of the largest catholic churches in the city. over 3500 families. it was a growing operation and had been almost since its beginning back in 1916 or so. and i knew right away that it wasn't going to be just a normal assignment because the neighborhood was beginning to change. the coming of the black population as, you know, if you lived anywhere on the south side, you know that there was a slow deliberate migration from the ghetto just south of the loop in the 1950s, mo