and there was another friend, michael fortier, who was questioned and helped to provide some of the evidence against them. there are always questions in events like this where there is a lot of havoc and a lot of confusion about whether you've gotten everyone connected with the conspiracy. because they want pin down where these bombs were made, and one of these two are dead--i mean, i'm not a conspiracy theorist, but this kid is quiet. >> so what else does he know? >> now we know about the brothers but we didn't know what was happening that day which made it all the mortify more foster flyingmortifying mortifying. >> we're going in chronological order of the day. we're at possession and use of the firearm that semiautomatic handgun, no, the pipe bomb is in there. that's what they're talking about. the pipe bomb in relation to the crime of violence, aiding and abetting and the best way to go through the arguments is lay it down with the counts. so the jury would be able to go back through the jury room, walk through the counts, guilty, guilty guilty, you essentially give the jury what it need