michael fortior is a freeman?nk mcveigh would carry out the bombing plan. he agreed to a plea bargain, testifying against mcveigh and nick knolls and -- nichols and was released a decade ago and now has a new identity and home town because is in the federal witness protection program. he still occasionally calls his lawyer. >> can you tell us where he is living and what his name is? >> no. >> but he's still married? >> yes. >> to the same woman? >> yes. >> and he has children. >> and how many children does he have? >> two. >> and does he live a normal live? >> no. he'll never be able to live a normal life. >> in the witness protection program you're given a new identity and his neighbors don't know anything about his background. that is the way it is supposed to work. >> i can't comment on that. >> and when you say he can't live a normal life. because of the traumas of the past or things in the present? >> the trauma of the past and the risk to him. >> his brothers were two of the children killed in the day care c