first is michael gambon, what is your relationship with him,. >> michael gambon, when i was young, hesomething good. and that would get me through the next 18 months. he was the one i saw up ahead who i responded to. he was a modern actor, a contemporary actor. >> rose: what does that mean? >> it manies that he wasn't -- somehow he wasn't condition fined by any of the conventions of performing that were around at the time. he was kind of ready call in d apart of the fact that he is touched by genius, i mean i know that's the cliche of off cliches but i feel it to be true. and he has thrilled me. and when i first saw "slylight", for instance, which he created this role, i kind of sword fenced all the way home. when you were a kid and you saw a sword fencing movie or went to see a gangster movie you would jump over t was exactly like that. i was thrilled and i remember feeling obscurely proud that i did the same job an those people, my next person is david hare what is it about you two. >> it is the great good fortune of my career is my association with david hare. it started when i was

the first is michael gambon. what is your relationship with him? to come up to me and say something so profane, i could not repeat it. it was encouraging. he would say something good, he would have seen me in a play and that would get me through the next 18 months. he is someone who i responded to. he was a modern actor, a contemporary actor. charlie: what does that mean? bill: it means he was not confined by the conventions of performing. he was radical in a way. apart from the fact that he is touched by genius. i know that is the clichÉ of all clichÉs but i feel it to be , true. he thrilled me. when i first saw "skylight," he created this role, i sword fenced all of the way home. it was exactly like that. i was thrilled. i was proud i did the same job as those people. charlie: the next person is david hare, what is it about the two of you? bill: my relationship started when i was 30. i did a television film with him. when i read the first thing he wrote, it rang in me in a way that i think with great writing or great art it often does. it was alm