if you would like to say something about a man who has sat this table, the late michael garson. now you both know him. i would like to give you an opportunity to say something. >> i didn't know michael personally. the most time i spent with him was at this desk. but i did get to know him through his writing. i came white believing writing was calling for him and his writing called us to higher ideals. he always talked to what we have in common even on opposite sides of the ideological spectrum. he had conviction, passion, compassion and that is what i'm going to miss the most, his voice. >> what about you? >> i would agree 100% with jonathan. michael was a guy who wrote with empathy and deep intelligence. he was an evangelical christi an wd hein consi there were disagreements about how evangelicals dealt with trump and on, this is a guy who wrote very personally. he wrote with great empathy. when you came away reading him, whether you agreed with what he was writing are not, there is something deep and thoughtful they are to think about. it's a voice we are going to miss. >> i ca